Originally posted by EpicurusIt was hyperbole. Physical blunt force is different than energy projection. Collateral damage does gauge blunt force hits.
Irrelevant. The room which Molecule Man was standing in wasn't destroyed when he hit the Beyonder with a blast that could slag a billion dimensions.You resort to using collateral damage whenever it suits your argument. Disingenuous method of debate, that is.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusWell, Thor used the term "Righteous" and against "evil". I might be wrong about Righteousness being in general Desak's weakness. Think of Kryptonite. It weakens Superman, but not to the level where he is powerless. IMO, it would take Righteousness and sufficient force to overcome Desak. Bill, Hercules, etc. had the righteousness but not the sufficient force.
Here's the exact quote:
If you want to take that literally, go ahead but all it would mean is that in the face of evil, the Odin Power is unlimited.
But what you're suggesting was never implied. As a matter of fact, it doesn't even make sense. Being righteous doesn't allow you to overcome Desak's enchantment. His earlier fights against Bill/Thor/Hercules prove this to be a lie.
The intention? The writer's intention was that Thor's a badass that has a long history of doing that type of shit.
Bottomline, we know Righteousness had something to do with it. Otherwise, Thor wouldn't have mentioned it as a reason it overcame Desak.
Hulk is not evil though and Thor considers Banner a friend.
P.S. Revelation KT was a badass. I'm starting to believe he is above Odin himself or even Tyrant.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
From Thor, God of Thunder 21:So we know its King Thor.
From the same comic:
His rage DOTH burn like a billion supernovas....and his fists fall with the force of the same.
The use of 'doth' leads me to read it as archaic UK English. In that, 'billion' is a million million (and not a thousand million like you Yankees use).
So, yeah. If we want to use narration and what the writers were intending to show.....
Also, just a minor point, but this was an old King Thor, whose own granddaughters were treating him like some doddering old coot (IOW, he was hardly a raging warrior beast in his prime):
Originally posted by h1a8
Well, Thor used the term "Righteous" and against "evil". I might be wrong about Righteousness being in general Desak's weakness. Think of Kryptonite. It weakens Superman, but not to the level where he is powerless. IMO, it would take Righteousness and sufficient force to overcome Desak. Bill, Hercules, etc. had the righteousness but not the sufficient force.
Especially when in one of those scans Desak claims that some of the gods he's bested might be superior to Thor. Which, granted that it's hyperbolish, but still indicates that he had faced gods with power comparable to that version of King Thor.
Anyways, far as I recall Desak's ultimate downfall was a combination of Loki tampering with the Designate's power and Thor unleashing the full force of the Odinpower upon him.
Originally posted by h1a8
It was hyperbole. Physical blunt force is different than energy projection. Collateral damage does gauge blunt force hits.
You're honestly telling me that when one omnipotent being tells another that he shot a blast that can slag a billion dimensions, it's to be considered hyperbole? GTFO of here.
I see what he's doing, though. He's slowly adding in his view point over a few posts/days, then will claim he's 'always' had this viewpoint.
Although, lol at using statements ('Righteousness'/'evil'😉 but am sure he will dismiss mine as 'mere' statements.
I would like to see him calculate how much energy it would take to punch someone through the Earth, across the other side, into orbit, into the Moon with sufficient force to actually break it.