This strength ft is better than any strength ft Orion has done his entire career and Hulk was weakened when he did it. Lol.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkstrength1.jpg
Originally posted by Golgo13
Range attacks, strength, speed, superior fighting skills, BFR, and Mother Box. Orion is the complete package.
What range attack will he use in a rage? What's his best speed ft? Hulk moved through time. Got teleported and came back to the battle field instantly. Show me him bfring and using the mother box while being in a rage.
Originally posted by Golgo13
Orion has more tools to take Hulk down. Hulk is formidable, but strength only gets you so far.
The Hulk has proven that he has more than just strength, and he can fight, is fast, durable, can take huge energy attacks, and bombard a large area with his own form of energy attack. Don't tell me that you believe that the AF is going to one shot the Hulk? It better because if it didn't Orion would be in huge trouble against this version of the Hulk.
This is a forum battle, and as much as it can work out for Orion, it can also work in the Hulk's favor. If an AF attack doesn't one shot Hulk, the Hulk would not have any innocents to worry about, and would go berserk on him.
Originally posted by carver9
Orion doesn't have a single strength ft that Thing cant replicate/do better. Not one. He has failed at achieving a strength ft that Thing could do in his sleep.
You're failing.
Badly.
Now you are arguing that Orion is weaker than Thing or Colossus.
Keep going, Carver. Your self-destruction is entertaining.
Originally posted by Golgo13
Agree to disagree lll take orion in a tough battle.
Orion is more versatile, this has never been in question, but versatility only gets you so far, when the strength disparity becomes too great of an issue. In a forum setting where WW Hulk looks from left to right, and sees that there are no innocent bystanders to be hurt, and realizes that he can just let go of all of his pent up anger, Orion won't last very long. Have you seen WW Hulk when he let go all of his pent up anger? When he refused to hold back?
I see him beating Orion's face in like he did to Gladiator, but this time he's on an entirely different level, as cited in several of the books that he was in. "This is an entirely different Hulk, and more powerful than we have ever seen". A weaker Hulk was beating up on Hercules (immortal), Namor, Doc Samson, Iron Man, and Wonder Man. That team would tear Orion to pieces.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Namor, Samson, Iron-Man and Wonder Man were of course going all out against WWH.
I wasn't talking about WW Hulk, I was talking about a dying mindless, or Bannerless Hulk. Trust me I didn't leave out any context. This is fiction, why would I lie? Anyways, this team knew what they were going up against, and the reason why this particular team was put together was to take down the Hulk, even if it meant killing him. I see that you also forgot that I said Hercules (immortal version) was there as well.
Originally posted by Stoic
A weaker Hulk was beating up on Hercules (immortal), Namor, Doc Samson, Iron Man, and Wonder Man. That team would tear Orion to pieces.
Impressive.
But you're underselling Orion, imo. Unless you think this team could rip Superman apart as well? 😛 (Ok, MAYBE Herc alone at his best could, but in that case your example marks a low end showing for the god, and I don't want to go the lowball route..)
Anyways, here's one of Orions more impressive showings that don't involve fighting Superman:
Vs his friend Lightray. Here's a character that fit the definition of high herald, at the least, given the fact he could casually create suns. He managed to give Takion a good fight (When Takion was new to his powers, but he was still manhandling Green Lantern and Captain Atom at the same experience level), and on one occasion dropped Highfather to his knees with a surprise attack (Highfather being arguably in the skyfather tier).
Orion not only tanked his attacks (The power of suns), but pretty casually put beat him down.
