Originally posted by Lord Stark
You think a 10 year old Sith apprentice will have the same increase in power as an 80 year old Sith Master?
I'm not sure a 10 year old apprentice would know how to tap into a nexus, but if they could I see no reason why not.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
I'd easily be able to accept that. Undermining your opponent with the force is different than holding them against their will with the force. Unless the latter was the case in this situation
Pretty much this. Dooku attacked Ventress outside of a combat situation in such a manner as to render her unable to fight back because she was in so much pain. He can't do the same in a fight.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I'm not sure a 10 year old apprentice would know how to tap into a nexus, but if they could I see no reason why not.
Lol because mastery allows you to have a greater command of the force. This is amplified by a nexus. Dooku is logically going to be able to appropriate the power way better than a ****ing ten year old.
Pretty much this. Dooku attacked Ventress outside of a combat situation in such a manner as to render her unable to fight back because she was in so much pain. He can't do the same in a fight.
Yeah no this is the exact same situation as the Sidious choking Dooku one. She is always tortured by Dooku and would logically always be on guard.
Originally posted by Lord Stark
Lol because mastery allows you to have a greater command of the force. This is amplified by a nexus. Dooku is logically going to be able to appropriate the power way better than a ****ing ten year old.
Its not a question of your command of the Force, its just tapping into a concentrated wellspring of power. Theres no reason why Dooku would be amped more than a normal Sith.
Originally posted by Lord Stark
Yeah no this is the exact same situation as the Sidious choking Dooku one. She is always tortured by Dooku and would logically always be on guard.
No, since Dooku was merely choked and not whimpering on the floor in agony. You can fight back with the Force while being choked out, but if you're in too much pain obviously you can't concentrate enough to defend yourself. And I don't think its common practice to walk around with a Force Shield constantly up when they're just talking.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Venress isn't ten!!! WTF are you talkin bout?
Dude I am exaggerating.
It also took Dooku a lot of focus
No it didn't he tapped his finger while sitting down. He might as well have been sipping a glass of Tarisian Ale while he did it.
There is a precedent for him tooling her with TK.
Not with a finger, and not popping her blood vessels.
I don't get why this is considered to be something he isn't normally capable of.
Lol because if he could do that when Savage and Ventress rose their blades against him he'd have just murdered them with a tap of the finger.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Its not a question of your command of the Force, its just tapping into a concentrated wellspring of power. Theres no reason why Dooku would be amped more than a normal Sith.
Dooku will be able to tap into it more than a normal Sith, just as Dooku is able to tap into the force more than a normal Sith on neutral ground.
No, since Dooku was merely choked and not whimpering on the floor in agony. You can fight back with the Force while being choked out, but if you're in too much pain obviously you can't concentrate enough to defend yourself. And I don't think its common practice to walk around with a Force Shield constantly up when they're just talking.
Just because Dooku wasn't crying out in agony doesn't mean he wasn't in pain. The man only grunted when Anakin sawed off his hands.
Originally posted by Lord Stark
Lol because if he could do that when Savage and Ventress rose their blades against him he'd have just murdered them with a tap of the finger.
With this logic Luke should tool most, if not all of his opponents not named Abeloth, correct? Inconsistencies can be found everywhere.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
With this logic Luke should tool most, if not all of his opponents not named Abeloth, correct? Inconsistencies can be found everywhere.
Except, that's not how Jedi like Luke fight. "A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense, never for attack."
This is a huge plot point in many of the post-RotJ novels.
Originally posted by Lord Stark
Dooku will be able to tap into it more than a normal Sith, just as Dooku is able to tap into the force more than a normal Sith on neutral ground.
"Let me just restate my opinion as fact, without any proof. That'll be compelling."
He can't tap into it more because theres no more or less Force to tap into depending on his Force Mastery. A Force Nexus is a concentration of Force power and the strength of that concentration isn't dependent on Force Mastery. Opening yourself up to it would have the same effect on anyone.
Either way, you have no proof for your opinion so whatever.
Originally posted by Lord Stark
Just because Dooku wasn't crying out in agony doesn't mean he wasn't in pain. The man only grunted when Anakin sawed off his hands.
Being choked isn't very painful. Not to a debilitating degree at least.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Red herrings, red herrings everywhere. Also Luke is by far the most overrated person on these boards.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
"The comm on Dooku's desk beeped. He shook his head, like a man waking from a dream."Kinda seems like it was taking a good deal of his focus. Also Dooku is quite good at masking his emotions and usually doesn't really visibly show the amount of effort he is putting into combat.
Yeah he had to focus to make sure he didn't kill her.
"It's the blood vessels I hate," Dooku said. "The way they stretch inside, like balloons about to pop."