Originally posted by PsychotronThat is using his force powers not like it is a shield but Voldemort has his own powers to stop it aka a shield or shooting energy out of his wand. Based on what ? His movements are far slower than Voldemort, meathead.
He didn't use any shield, he absorbed the lightning via tutaminis. That's an ability Voldemort doesn't posses. He won't block anything when he's blitzed by Sidious.Why would Sidious enter battle when he can have his underlings do it? That would be ridiculous, he is the freaking Emperor. It easily defeated Maul and Savage, both of them are far above your average Jedi.
It's not cowardly, it's intelligent. Sidious was up against the entire Jedi Order, which numbered in the thousands, and he defeated them all. People like Dooku were just pawns to him. Voldemort is the real coward, he hid on the back of some dude's head, like a lowly parasite, and its flat out stated that he was afraid of Dumbledore. Sidious defeated Yoda, no ifs or buts. Voldemort, on the other hand, fled from Dumbledore. Vader could have become more powerful than them if it wasn't for Obi-Wan.
He didn't need Vader, he wanted to have him as his apprentice due to his potential. He was perfectly willing to replace him. Getting killed by a 6'6 cyborg Jedi hunter is still better than being defeated by a schoolboy.
Yes, most of the EU doesn't count anymore, and neither does Lucas.
He left before they got there, stop being a retard. Also, Sidious had the courage to face Mace Windu + 3 other Jedi Masters, unlike Voldemort.
Killed by his apprentice >>> killed by a child. At least Vader was powerful, Harry was a mediocre wizard.
All of them have magic inside them, they still need wands to focus their more powerful spells. Sidious could easily disarm Voldemort with his powerful TK. You haven't proven Voldemort can resist being choked.
Please, its a series of children's books. I read them when I was kid and I grew out of them just like everyone else did. Everyone except menchildren like you, that is.
Nope, Vader could have become more powerful if he wasn't crippled by Obi-Wan. After that he was just a servant.
You're the one lying through your teeth.
Due to courage and faith in ones abilities. Voldemort takes on Dumbledore but Sidious initial reaction was to flee. Maul is but Oppress lacked skill so he was an easy win.
It is cowardly though when he tries fleeing from a 3 foot tall Yoda. Have some pride, Palpatine. Palpatine never used an entire army to murder them so he just betrayed them. He also had Vader invade the temple himself. Cowardly. Dooku was a pawn but the guy was clearly an idiot. Being afraid of someone is good because it shows how courageous he is taking him on. Voldemort didn't blink but just took that old timer on. Thanks for admitting Voldemort is courage in wizard form. Sidious knocked him down and had backup coming. Dumbledore had backup coming. Context. Sidious was defeated by Windu in a fair fight.
He needed Vader hence his obsession with going to rescue him. Vader just wrecked him. Voldemort had multiple wizards attack his horcues through years of intense planning. Vader just hip tossed him to hell. 😂
Movies still count. Windu still waxed his ass.
No, he left when they saw him. Quit lying, meathead. You're dumb. Sidious lost one on one to Windu. 😂
Years of planning, wand that resisted him, aided by friends, >>>being hit tossed by your apprentice because he had a change of heart. Stupid emperor.
Sidious has been disarmed in combat. Voldemort has not. Evidence counts not your bs. Voldemort tk's Sidious saber away because Windu's leg sure did. 🙂
Movies got really dark. Star Wars has Jar jar binks, Chewbacca, and has the corniest dialogue ever. Potter decimates the cheesy series.
Vader got wrecked and then wrecked Palpatine.
Irony.
Originally posted by quanchi112
That is using his force powers not like it is a shield but Voldemort has his own powers to stop it aka a shield or shooting energy out of his wand. Based on what ? His movements are far slower than Voldemort, meathead.Due to courage and faith in ones abilities. Voldemort takes on Dumbledore but Sidious initial reaction was to flee. Maul is but Oppress lacked skill so he was an easy win.
It is cowardly though when he tries fleeing from a 3 foot tall Yoda. Have some pride, Palpatine. Palpatine never used an entire army to murder them so he just betrayed them. He also had Vader invade the temple himself. Cowardly. Dooku was a pawn but the guy was clearly an idiot. Being afraid of someone is good because it shows how courageous he is taking him on. Voldemort didn't blink but just took that old timer on. Thanks for admitting Voldemort is courage in wizard form. Sidious knocked him down and had backup coming. Dumbledore had backup coming. Context. Sidious was defeated by Windu in a fair fight.
He needed Vader hence his obsession with going to rescue him. Vader just wrecked him. Voldemort had multiple wizards attack his horcues through years of intense planning. Vader just hip tossed him to hell. 😂
Movies still count. Windu still waxed his ass.
No, he left when they saw him. Quit lying, meathead. You're dumb. Sidious lost one on one to Windu. 😂
Years of planning, wand that resisted him, aided by friends, >>>being hit tossed by your apprentice because he had a change of heart. Stupid emperor.
Sidious has been disarmed in combat. Voldemort has not. Evidence counts not your bs. Voldemort tk's Sidious saber away because Windu's leg sure did. 🙂
Movies got really dark. Star Wars has Jar jar binks, Chewbacca, and has the corniest dialogue ever. Potter decimates the cheesy series.
Vader got wrecked and then wrecked Palpatine.
Irony.
Show me Voldemort absorbing lightning or electricity. He blitzed 3 Jedi Masters, he's faster than Voldy.
Sidious doesn't need to enter battle when he runs an entire galaxy. There'd be no point, anyway. No one could stand up to him. Voldemort fled from Dumbledore, Sidious stood up to 4 Jedi Masters. Nevertheless, Maul + Opress is a formidable team and Sidious raped them.
So it's okay when Voldemort is a coward, but it's bad when Sidious is afraid. Hypocrite. Anyway, Yoda is the most powerful Jedi Master ever, and despite his fear Sidious defeated him. Why wouldn't he use a tool to invade the temple? Sidious didn't get to where he is by doing the dirty work. He's both a powerhouse and a mastermind, unlike Voldemort, who couldn't even defeat one school. Sidious didn't lose cleanly to Mace Windu, there's context there no matter how much you ignore it.
At the time he thought Vader could be come his successor, he was wrong. Vader would have hip tossed Voldemort even easier. Tommy was too frail and effeminate to resist Vader.
He did not. Not when it was clearly shown Sidious held back his Force powers.
Lying won't change facts, retard. There was context to Sidious' lose, there was no context Voldemort's loss. Dumbledore was just better than him in every possible way.
Not gonna happen with Sidous' superior speed, precog, and his own superior TK. Voldemort gets disarmed and killed in under 5 seconds.
You wanna talk about cheesy? How about that teeny bopper bullshit in the mid movies? Or Ron's entire useless character? He's worse than Jar Jar ever could be.
By sneak attacking him, not in a direct confrontation. Pay more attention to the movies.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So why bring it up then? Voldy couldn't kill harry and I'm glad you admit there is nothing impressive about it or excuses that make it good.
It was brought up because both sides were seemingly using this scene to better their arguments.
The scene itself is nonsense, it's feel good hollow bollocks and what you should all consider "Plot Induced Stupidity."
Lilly does not "beat" Voldemort in this encounter.
Thats the whole thought process.
She actually did, she outsmarted Voldermort. Knowing that after her death Voldermort would go after her infant son like the coward he is, she set a trap for him.
Outsmarting someone and setting up a plan that leads to their death is a form of beating them. Lilly wanted Harry to survive and Voldermort destroyed; she achieved exactly this. Voldermort wanted Harry dead and his body intact, he failed on both counts. Winner: Lilly
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, they do not. We have seen Hondo and pirates take Dooku, Anakin, and Obi as prisoners despite them having supposedly slower. You are making things up again with no proof. We see Jango Fett, Cad Bane, and others take on jedi and Sith no problems. We can tell when someone is faster based in reactionary time and blurs like in Man of steel, true blood, etc.Sidious slows raises his hand as we see how slow of a reactionary feat Yoda failed to stop it. Awful. He killed three weak jedi and then was defeated by Windu. I never said that was the quickest he could react, long face. You can't'the debate for shit because you never provide evidence.
You have no feats of Palpatine mindraping. You need to prove he can Mindrape someone in combat. Prove something. That is how debating works. You can't make a baseless claim and then say disprove it.
Then why bring up how long it took him to raise his hand? He could've done so much faster than he did is the point, so you saying let's time how long it took him to raise his hand, is well, retarded.
I talking to another it is clear you have no idea about the star wars universe and it's painfully obvious. You claimed Voldy is the only one who can take another body... This isn't true... That's is EXACTLY what Sids does. He's done so numerous times in fact. No big deal for hm.
Okay I accept your concession... Sids wins with mind rape right from the start as you haven't shown any resistance to it.
Originally posted by RJ 2.0
Most of the time I was wrong in a Jedi vs Wizard debate, but there are a couple of threads where I still stand by what I said.
Fair enough and you realize that Quanchi only went to "HP wins" because he saw the attention you were getting from it. He was initially a "Star Wars wins" guy when he crawled out of the CVF and came here. He copied you; what he does.
Originally posted by PsychotronHis energy can meet it head on. He shot off what looked like electricity himself when facing Dumbledore at Harry.
Show me Voldemort absorbing lightning or electricity. He blitzed 3 Jedi Masters, he's faster than Voldy.Sidious doesn't need to enter battle when he runs an entire galaxy. There'd be no point, anyway. No one could stand up to him. Voldemort fled from Dumbledore, Sidious stood up to 4 Jedi Masters. Nevertheless, Maul + Opress is a formidable team and Sidious raped them.
So it's okay when Voldemort is a coward, but it's bad when Sidious is afraid. Hypocrite. Anyway, Yoda is the most powerful Jedi Master ever, and despite his fear Sidious defeated him. Why wouldn't he use a tool to invade the temple? Sidious didn't get to where he is by doing the dirty work. He's both a powerhouse and a mastermind, unlike Voldemort, who couldn't even defeat one school. Sidious didn't lose cleanly to Mace Windu, there's context there no matter how much you ignore it.
At the time he thought Vader could be come his successor, he was wrong. Vader would have hip tossed Voldemort even easier. Tommy was too frail and effeminate to resist Vader.
He did not. Not when it was clearly shown Sidious held back his Force powers.
Lying won't change facts, retard. There was context to Sidious' lose, there was no context Voldemort's loss. Dumbledore was just better than him in every possible way.
Not gonna happen with Sidous' superior speed, precog, and his own superior TK. Voldemort gets disarmed and killed in under 5 seconds.
You wanna talk about cheesy? How about that teeny bopper bullshit in the mid movies? Or Ron's entire useless character? He's worse than Jar Jar ever could be.
By sneak attacking him, not in a direct confrontation. Pay more attention to the movies.
It am not saying Sidious should go challenge people but when someone seeks him out he should not try to run like he did against Yoda. He defeated three weaker jedi masters before being outright beaten by Windu. Voldemort did not try to run from Dumbledore. He put him on his ass. When the other Aurors showed up he intelligently left. One on one though Sidious tried running from Yoda. That's so weak.
Fear is fine but trying to flee is cowardice. Understand what words mean. Voldemort took Dumbledore on despite fearing him which is what courage is. Facing that what you fear. Palpatine tried to flee which is a sign of cowardice because he did not want to face him. His tail went in between his legs.
Voldemort would have killed him with one kill curse. Vader resisted the force lightning. Vader did kill palpatine so quit saying he might be able to do this or that. I deal in facts, welp.
Prove he held back.
Dumbledore did not beat him. Windu clearly beat Sidious. Facts. You cry a lot. Won't change a thing.
Cite evidence then. I can start timing out attacks to compare how much consistently faster Voldemort is here.
Jar jar is a complete joke whereas Ron is not. Harry potter is superior in terms of acting, dialogue, kiddo.
He picked him right up and survived the force lightning. Weak.
Originally posted by RobtardYou are downright lying. She never had some long orchestrated plan. She sacrificed herself when he showed up and the love protected her son.
She actually did, she outsmarted Voldermort. Knowing that after her death Voldermort would go after her infant son like the coward he is, she set a trap for him.Outsmarting someone and setting up a plan that leads to their death is a form of beating them. Lilly wanted Harry to survive and Voldermort destroyed; she achieved exactly this. Voldermort wanted Harry dead and his body intact, he failed on both counts. Winner: Lilly
Voldemort came back after her son and she could not still protect him. You're a complete idiot. I feel bad as you're both short and dumb.
I bet you're extremely ugly as well.
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Originally posted by quanchi112
You are downright lying. She never had some long orchestrated plan. She sacrificed herself when he showed up and the love protected her son.Voldemort came back after her son and she could not still protect him. You're a complete idiot. I feel bad as you're both short and dumb.
I bet you're extremely ugly as well.
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"irony"
Voldermort lost, deal with it already. A grown man crying over a meh villain in a children's film series. Shameful, really