Darth Sidious vs. Voldemort

Originally posted by quanchi112
You have no proof. He just moved quicker than the shitty jedi could react. Windu outright beat him. Nothing supported in the films. 😂

You need to prove he can mindrape his foes. Killing someone with a saber isn't mindrape.

Voldemort doesn't need a broom. Watch the films, abe. They can show superhuman speed like in True blood or Dracla untold. Movies only, sport. We see them react in real time. 😂

Prove it. He was unable to do so to Yoda or Windu.

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Wrong again, it's confirmed HOW Sids got he jump on one of them.. and it was through mindrape. Lucas confirms so.

Sids DID do that to Yoda... he sent him flying with lighting right away and Yoda went down briefly

Nope... even then they show Dracula MOVING at fast speeds... but during actual fight scenes they slow it down so you can SEE what's happening. Or else there would be no fight scenes smush face.. would be a big blur and the audience would be like WTF. So even in the movies you named it's the same thing. Look at twilight as another example... They show them moving so we can see.. but if it was in actual time through human perception... we'd see nothing at all.

The jedi were some of the best in the order... Vastly faster than Voldy themselves. Yet they couldn't react to him

AGAIN.. POST VOLDY"S MINDRAPE RESISTANCE FEATS OR I"LL ACCEPT YOUR CONCESSION>

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Wrong again, it's confirmed HOW Sids got he jump on one of them.. and it was through mindrape. Lucas confirms so.

Sids DID do that to Yoda... he sent him flying with lighting right away and Yoda went down briefly

Nope... even then they show Dracula MOVING at fast speeds... but during actual fight scenes they slow it down so you can SEE what's happening. Or else there would be no fight scenes smush face.. would be a big blur and the audience would be like WTF. So even in the movies you named it's the same thing. Look at twilight as another example... They show them moving so we can see.. but if it was in actual time through human perception... we'd see nothing at all.

The jedi were some of the best in the order... Vastly faster than Voldy themselves. Yet they couldn't react to him

AGAIN.. POST VOLDY"S MINDRAPE RESISTANCE FEATS OR I"LL ACCEPT YOUR CONCESSION>

That is force Lightning not a force choke. Yoda used the force to push back Palpatine. Ironic. They show Dracula moving at superhuman speeds in battle. We don't ever see this in Star Wars. Evidence, kiddo.

Based on realtime Voldemort is faster. Hands down.

You need to proved Palpatinecan Mindrape.

There is no "real time" sport... Movie time isn't the same as real time... It shows star ships going super fast and getting to their destination in seconds.. when in reality it would take much longer.. even at light speed. Even in the movie you named.. Dracula moves faster at traveling speed than fighting speed. The fight scenes we can actually see what's happening. In TRUE human perception we'd see nothing. Same with twilight which you avoided... We see them moving at fast speeds so they audience KNOWS what's going on.... Yet, in reality human perception wouldn't be able to see a thing.

I already did.. he mind raped Kolar and hide himself from the Jedi council. I've also shown Anakin and Kenobi both using mind rape.. It's a trait that the powerful jedi and sith all have. NOW, post your proof for Voldy's mind rap resistance or I'll accept your concession.

Voldy has no answer for either... Sids will react quicker than Voldy can ever dream of reacting and will either TP... TK or Force lighting him with utter ease. There will be no time for Voldy to react.

I miss the use of this word from both of you.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
There is no "real time" sport... Movie time isn't the same as real time... It shows star ships going super fast and getting to their destination in seconds.. when in reality it would take much longer.. even at light speed. Even in the movie you named.. Dracula moves faster at traveling speed than fighting speed. The fight scenes we can actually see what's happening. In TRUE human perception we'd see nothing. Same with twilight which you avoided... We see them moving at fast speeds so they audience KNOWS what's going on.... Yet, in reality human perception wouldn't be able to see a thing.

I already did.. he mind raped Kolar and hide himself from the Jedi council. I've also shown Anakin and Kenobi both using mind rape.. It's a trait that the powerful jedi and sith all have. NOW, post your proof for Voldy's mind rap resistance or I'll accept your concession.

Voldy has no answer for either... Sids will react quicker than Voldy can ever dream of reacting and will either TP... TK or Force lighting him with utter ease. There will be no time for Voldy to react.

He killed him with his saber. He did not mind rape. Those are Jedi mind tricks which only work on the weak willed not Voldemort. 😂

Watch the films. He invades minds and breaks his opponents though not in battle hence I won't argue such a thing.

False. SIDS blasted Yoda in a movement that took about three seconds iirc.

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Voldemort is a lot faster in the films. Fact, abe.

Originally posted by Robtard
Another "No you!" response, your fallback response when your narrow back is to the corner, half-pint

Originally posted by quanchi112
The magnitude of the choke does not change whether it is in the same room or across the galaxy. Quit lying. Voldemort can defend himself or flick his wrist and do damage to Vader.

The quality of thee Potter films far outweighs the cheesy acting and subpar dialogue of the Star Wars films. Quality wise Potter destroys the Star Wars films. M. Hamil, dummy.

We have seen Sith choke in the same room and the power behind it does not change. Voldemort has TK himself and can apparate, fly, etc. Acting like a guy with the same ability and a variety of other attacks can't beat someone using just TK is simply stupid. Quit being obtuse. Voldemort can use his powers while trapped inside a water bubble suffocating him.

The distance he went back was pathetic. Voldemort flew through structures with Harry at greater speeds and fell a much higher depth and recovered just fine. Your ignorance is astounding.

Vader is not in this thread, retard. It's Sidious, the true Dark Lord. And the magnitude does change, Palps was only giving Dooku a lesson, if he wanted to choke him to death he could have. Can Voldemort flick his wrist when he's TKed into a wall? No, he can't.

Hahaha, are you even trying? The OT annihilates the Potter movies on every level.

Yes, it does. Sidious choked two Mandalorians to death in seconds in TCW. A frail lady boy like Tommy wouldn't last even that much. He has more than just TK, he has lightning, precog, enhanced physical abilities, etc. Sidious has more raw power and doesn't need to rely on a faggy wand to use his attacks.

Your love for such a pathetic character is even more astounding. We're taking about a guy who literally couldn't even beat school children. Sidious takes over galaxies, Tommy was beaten by a kid.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Vader is not in this thread, retard. It's Sidious, the true Dark Lord. And the magnitude does change, Palps was only giving Dooku a lesson, if he wanted to choke him to death he could have. Can Voldemort flick his wrist when he's TKed into a wall? No, he can't.

Hahaha, are you even trying? The OT annihilates the Potter movies on every level.

Yes, it does. Sidious choked two Mandalorians to death in seconds in TCW. A frail lady boy like Tommy wouldn't last even that much. He has more than just TK, he has lightning, precog, enhanced physical abilities, etc. Sidious has more raw power and doesn't need to rely on a faggy wand to use his attacks.

Your love for such a pathetic character is even more astounding. We're taking about a guy who literally couldn't even beat school children. Sidious takes over galaxies, Tommy was beaten by a kid.

No, they do not. In terms of quality acting, characterization, plot the Potter series rapes it. M. Hamil is an awful actor.

Two mandalorians are not Voldemort nor do they possess his abilities/raw power. Voldemort has more impressive durability feats than Palpatine. Windu kicked his sorry ass into a submissive position.

Sidious' force lightning is nothing compared to Voldemort's raw power, one shot death curses. Voldemort has a wand whereas Sidious has a laser sword. Voldemort's abilities shit all over Palpatine's. It isn't close, upset guy.

Sidious begged for his life. Awful. Weak. Please, don't kill him. What a wuss. Voldemort punked the entire wizarding world.

Voldemort defeated Harry and you're leaving out the context.

When I posed this question to star wars fans they all hid from me. Even gideon admitted Palpatine loses and he wrote a massive essay on the character.

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Oh dear, Quan didn't pay attention to DH part 2.

Fact: Harry Potter defeated Voldermort towards the end of the film, you 5'4" (in shoes) dummy

Originally posted by Psychotron
Vader is not in this thread, retard. It's Sidious, the true Dark Lord. And the magnitude does change, Palps was only giving Dooku a lesson, if he wanted to choke him to death he could have. Can Voldemort flick his wrist when he's TKed into a wall? No, he can't.

Hahaha, are you even trying? The OT annihilates the Potter movies on every level.

Yes, it does. Sidious choked two Mandalorians to death in seconds in TCW. A frail lady boy like Tommy wouldn't last even that much. He has more than just TK, he has lightning, precog, enhanced physical abilities, etc. Sidious has more raw power and doesn't need to rely on a faggy wand to use his attacks.

Your love for such a pathetic character is even more astounding. We're taking about a guy who literally couldn't even beat school children. Sidious takes over galaxies, Tommy was beaten by a kid.

Must you use the words "retard" and "faggy" in something as silly as a conversation about who would win in a fight between a wizard or an evil old man?

Originally posted by Robtard
Oh dear, Quan didn't pay attention to DH part 2.

Fact: Harry Potter defeated Voldermort towards the end of the film, you 5'4" (in shoes) dummy

In Robbies world a wand that obeys the other guy is a fair fight. In robbies world your friends helping destroy Horcruxes and actively scheme against Voldemort is all just Harry. You're mind numbingly simple hence the reason you can't follow along with a Harry Potter and you championing the Man of steel, short stuff.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Didn't you pay attention to what led up to then conclusion because you aren't smart enough to ever pay attention for more than five minutes at a time, apparently.

In Robbies world a wand that obeys the other guy is a fair fight. In robbies world your friends helping destroy Horcruxes and actively scheme against Voldemort is all just Harry. You're mind numbingly simple hence the reason you can't follow along with a Harry Potter and you championing the Man of steel, short stuff.

Say that again in English, cos you're blabbering like an idiot

Now you're crying "not a fair fight!" in regards to a complete coward who tries to murder infants like a loser 😂

Harry Potter defeated Voldermort, you can't accept this and will continue to cry-rant, it is known

Originally posted by Robtard
Say that again in English, cos you're blabbering like an idiot

Now you're crying "not a fair fight!" in regards to a complete coward who tries to murder infants like a loser 😂

Harry Potter defeated Voldermort, you can't accept this and will continue to cry-rant, it is known

If someone's gun does not work in a duel then that isn't a fair fight. You mighty honk it is shorty but it isn't. Voldemort was going to kill Harry no matter what. He called off his death eaters multiple times and wouldn't allow anyone else to interfere. Courage.

False. Voldemort disarmed and Harry at his mercy in OOTP. Fair fight and clean win.

You're a tiny little man both in size and in intelligence.

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Originally posted by quanchi112

You can't understand a few simple sentences. Pathetic.

If someone's gun does not work in a duel then that isn't a fair fight.

You mighty honk it is shorty but it isn't.

Voldemort was going to kill Harry no matter what. He called off his death eaters multiple times and wouldn't allow anyone else to interfere. Courage.

False. Voldemort disarmed and Harry at his mercy in OOTP. Fair fight and clean win.

You're a tiny little man both in size and in intelligence.

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Speak somewhat clearly, thanks

Voldermort's wand worked, did you not see him use it for most of the film? You failed again

"You mighty honk it is shorty but it isn't." What 😂

Harry killed Voldermort, deal with it

Big whup, Voldermort got the upper-hand on a 14-15 year old, what a loser

"No you!"

Originally posted by Robtard
Speak somewhat clearly, thanks

Voldermort's wand worked, did you not see him use it for most of the film? You failed again

"You mighty honk it is shorty but it isn't." What 😂

Harry killed Voldermort, deal with it

Big whup, Voldermort got the upper-hand on a 14-15 year old, what a loser

"No you!"

It answered to Harry and resisted him. That is the point of Voldemort killing Snape because he didn't want a wand that obeys someone else.

You might think with an obvious correction I did not catch. Relax.

Context. You can't ignore it. Voldemort crushed him straight up. Deal with it. Harry stood no chance outside the circumstances that occurred in the film.

Voldemort was the most complete wizard in the films. You ignoring the power of just speaking his name in that world and the fear it illicited.

Voldemort wins. When I offered this battlezone no one accepted thus proving I am right and you have no guts.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Then force choke is the same used by all users. Sidious is not the true dark lord. That my dear emotionally compromised friend is Voldemort. Speculation. Dooku was submissive to him but also planned on screwing him over before Savage Oppress fell thru. Of course he can. At no point does tk'ing someone into a wall mean you can't do anything in response. He can counter while stuck in a watery prison suffocating for seconds.

No, they do not. In terms of quality acting, characterization, plot the Potter series rapes it. M. Hamil is an awful actor.

Two mandalorians are not Voldemort nor do they possess his abilities/raw power. Voldemort has more impressive durability feats than Palpatine. Windu kicked his sorry ass into a submissive position.

Sidious' force lightning is nothing compared to Voldemort's raw power, one shot death curses. Voldemort has a wand whereas Sidious has a laser sword. Voldemort's abilities shit all over Palpatine's. It isn't close, upset guy.

Sidious begged for his life. Awful. Weak. Please, don't kill him. What a wuss. Voldemort punked the entire wizarding world.

Voldemort defeated Harry and you're leaving out the context.

When I posed this question to star wars fans they all hid from me. Even gideon admitted Palpatine loses and he wrote a massive essay on the character.

😂 😂 😂

No, it's not. Just like Force lightning isn't the same between all Force users. It all depends on the strength of the Jedi or Sith. Voldemort has done nothing to earn the title of Dark Lord, he was beaten twice, once by a defenseless woman, and then by her son. Sidious took over an entire galaxy, poor Tommy couldn't even handle Earth. Dooku was submissive, because he knew he couldn't take him in a fight, and TCW showed how irrelevant Savage was in a fight against Sidious. You're greatly mistaken, my mentally handicapped friend. Savage and Maul, two men who are vastly superior to Voldemort in the physical category, couldn't more their wrists or hands when Palpatine TKed them, Voldemort doesn't have a chance.

Lol, the plot in Harry Potter is retarded, JK Rowling is a hack. Emma Watson is mediocre as hell, Rupert is awful, Daniel Radclife is okay, though. Their "dueling" was boring as hell, and they didn't have a single memorable villain. Harry Potter will never be as memorable or as influential as Star Wars was.

It's not about power, there's just nothing Voldemort can do to resist the Force. You know very well that Sidious threw the fight.

Voldemort will never get a chance to use his death curses, not when Sidious is so much faster, and all he has to do to pin Voldemort to a wall is to will it.

Sidious was just doing that to turn Anakin, as you know.

I don't care who you talked to before. If anyone told you that Sidious loses, then that person was wrong.

Originally posted by Psychotron
No, it's not. Just like Force lightning isn't the same between all Force users. It all depends on the strength of the Jedi or Sith. Voldemort has done nothing to earn the title of Dark Lord, he was beaten twice, once by a defenseless woman, and then by her son. Sidious took over an entire galaxy, poor Tommy couldn't even handle Earth. Dooku was submissive, because he knew he couldn't take him in a fight, and TCW showed how irrelevant Savage was in a fight against Sidious. You're greatly mistaken, my mentally handicapped friend. Savage and Maul, two men who are vastly superior to Voldemort in the physical category, couldn't more their wrists or hands when Palpatine TKed them, Voldemort doesn't have a chance.

Lol, the plot in Harry Potter is retarded, JK Rowling is a hack. Emma Watson is mediocre as hell, Rupert is awful, Daniel Radclife is okay, though. Their "dueling" was boring as hell, and they didn't have a single memorable villain. Harry Potter will never be as memorable or as influential as Star Wars was.

It's not about power, there's just nothing Voldemort can do to resist the Force. You know very well that Sidious threw the fight.

Voldemort will never get a chance to use his death curses, not when Sidious is so much faster, and all he has to do to pin Voldemort to a wall is to will it.

Sidious was just doing that to turn Anakin, as you know.

I don't care who you talked to before. If anyone told you that Sidious loses, then that person was wrong.

He killed Harry's mother and her sacrifice shielded her son. Saying she won when she died is pretty stupid, dumb guy. People are afraid to speak his name and his loyal death eaters won't even look him in the eyes. Meanwhile Vader hip tossed him the moment he had enough.

Sidious laid in wait like a coward. Voldemort took over by sheer force and fear. Sidious played both sides like a politician. He also begged for his life against Windu. Dooku knew he couldn't best Palpatine but also made plans with Oppress to eventually oppose him but they fell through. Savage never really upped his training and never really possessed exceptional skill. Dooku, Anakin, and Obi were all slaves to Hondo despite being released and having their force powers against some shitty pirates. Laughable. I can definitely go into more when it comes to he laughable jedi in the clone wars series.

If it were that easy for Palpatine to defeat foes he would do it more often. You don't have one example of him defeating any skilled foe in such a fashion in any way comparable to Voldemort. Yoda easily force pushed Palpatine back catching him off guard.

Many disagree. Money talks. Harry Potter is currently the most profitable movie franchise of all time. How many other live action roles did Hamil have after Star wars ? Now compare that with the Harry Potter actors. It isn't even close. R. Fiennes, G. Oldman, etc. Nuff said, kiddo.

False. The force is just tk and a few other tricks. Voldemort possesses Tk as well. Sidious is not the force but can connect with it in far less impressive ways than what Voldemort is capable of. Jedi can't even fly. The force it seems has vast limitations in interactivity with the jedi.

Sidious isn't much faster at all. Watch his fights and how slow he is compared to Voldemort who will be tossing death curses, fire snakes, black dark magical matter, fireballs, etc. at Palpatine. Yoda even held off his force lightning.

False. That is a lie. He turned that situation around but as soundly beaten. Quit lying, kiddo.

Gideon wrote an essay and knows far more than you who are a known liar. I punked the entire board with my challenge.

Voldemort wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You need to prove it. You want to ignore real time now. Dracula fights at faster than human speed in which we can't see his movements. Twilight also makes their movements quite clear in how fast they are fighting. No such thing in Star Wars. In fact we see Jango, Cad Bane, and others humiliate jedi. 😂

He killed him with his saber. He did not mind rape. Those are Jedi mind tricks which only work on the weak willed not Voldemort. 😂

Watch the films. He invades minds and breaks his opponents though not in battle hence I won't argue such a thing.

False. SIDS blasted Yoda in a movement that took about three seconds iirc.

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Voldemort is a lot faster in the films. Fact, abe.

You're not understanding Senor Shoes... They intentionally slow it down for us to be able to see them even running, let alone fighting. Human perception wouldn't be able to see a thing in real terms. If they wanted to intentionally make a movie be like real life and perception than much of the action scenes would be blurs or not even seeing a thing. So real time movement don't apply since we know they have to slow them down in order for us to see what is happening.

You're a complete idiot, I'm like a total smush face midget moron. Sidious SLOWLY raises his hand for dramatic effect.. not because he's that slow you idiot. WE see him moving at super speeds when he killed the 3 Jedi.. We see him moving super fast fighting Yoda and countering Yoda's super fast movement and flipping all over the place. That's why you can never win a debate with me because you're an absolute moron who doesn't know how to argue. Just so we're clear... You think Sidious raises his hand slow before he fires lighting because that's as fast as he can raise his hand? Try not to lie midget

So you have no feats showing Voldy resisting TP than? Okay good, Sidious wins as soon as the fight starts. His speed is vastly faster than Voldy and Voldy has zero TP resistance feats. Game over Sids wins.

The claim that Harry Potter will never be as memorable as Harry Potter is a really weird statement to make.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Foce Lightning is different. Sidious has not choked people out faster than everyone else.

He killed Harry's mother and her sacrifice shielded her son. Saying she won when she died is pretty stupid, dumb guy. People are afraid to speak his name and his loyal death eaters won't even look him in the eyes. Meanwhile Vader hip tossed him the moment he had enough.

Sidious laid in wait like a coward. Voldemort took over by sheer force and fear. Sidious played both sides like a politician. He also begged for his life against Windu. Dooku knew he couldn't best Palpatine but also made plans with Oppress to eventually oppose him but they fell through. Savage never really upped his training and never really possessed exceptional skill. Dooku, Anakin, and Obi were all slaves to Hondo despite being released and having their force powers against some shitty pirates. Laughable. I can definitely go into more when it comes to he laughable jedi in the clone wars series.

If it were that easy for Palpatine to defeat foes he would do it more often. You don't have one example of him defeating any skilled foe in such a fashion in any way comparable to Voldemort. Yoda easily force pushed Palpatine back catching him off guard.

Many disagree. Money talks. Harry Potter is currently the most profitable movie franchise of all time. How many other live action roles did Hamil have after Star wars ? Now compare that with the Harry Potter actors. It isn't even close. R. Fiennes, G. Oldman, etc. Nuff said, kiddo.

False. The force is just tk and a few other tricks. Voldemort possesses Tk as well. Sidious is not the force but can connect with it in far less impressive ways than what Voldemort is capable of. Jedi can't even fly. The force it seems has vast limitations in interactivity with the jedi.

Sidious isn't much faster at all. Watch his fights and how slow he is compared to Voldemort who will be tossing death curses, fire snakes, black dark magical matter, fireballs, etc. at Palpatine. Yoda even held off his force lightning.

False. That is a lie. He turned that situation around but as soundly beaten. Quit lying, kiddo.

Gideon wrote an essay and knows far more than you who are a known liar. I punked the entire board with my challenge.

Voldemort wins.

And what difference does that make? Voldemort is powerless to resist the Force choke either way.

LOL, she won because she saved her son and reduced Voldemort to nothing more than a bad memory. Voldemort got BTFO by a soccer mom, deal with it. Vader, a man who was feared by the entire galaxy, was scared shitless by the Emperor.

"Laid in wait like a coward"? No, not at all. He was building up his power and influence, he led both the Republic and the CIS, so he was the most powerful man in the galaxy even before he created the Empire. On the other hand, Voldemort was living on the back of some dude's head like a lowly parasite. Sidious took over an entire galaxy with his intelligence and manipulation, Riddle couldn't even take over one school. Dooku scheming against him doesn't mean anything if he didn't have the balls to act on it.

The key words here are "off guard", he was a mach for Yoda when they fought. Sidious wrecked 3 Jedi Masters in seconds and casually defeated Maul and Savage, both of whom are far above most Jedi. Voldemort has nothing on that. He fled from Dumbledore and was defeated by a child.

Fiennes and Oldman completely phoned it in and only did it for the money. And Harry Potter has more films than Star Wars, plus there are things like inflation that you haven't factored in. And again, BO =/= quality.

Bullshit. The Force can do many things like lightning, tk, precog, enhanced physical abilities amongst others. Then there's Mother Talzing's magic, Sith Sorcery, and the Ones. And that's without counting the EU.

Sidious was pretending he couldn't keep up the lightning attack and you know it.

Please, you're the one who was going to chase me off the board with your irrefutable proof and you chickened out. You're a joke.