Darth Sidious vs. Voldemort

Started by Quincy19 pages

Lily did not beat Voldemort that night. The ****ing Magic prophecy nonsense thing did.

Lily stood there and got straight murdered.

Originally posted by Quincy
Lily did not beat Voldemort that night. The ****ing Magic prophecy nonsense thing did.

Lily stood there and got straight murdered.

It was her love that saved Harry and wrecked Voldy.

Originally posted by Quincy
Lily did not beat Voldemort that night. The ****ing Magic prophecy nonsense thing did.

Lily stood there and got straight murdered.

What is impressive about failing to kill a boy because of a mother's love?

There is nothing impressive about that. Who would possibly consider that a feat? Or an argument in any way?

You'd be surprised

Originally posted by Quincy
There is nothing impressive about that. Who would possibly consider that a feat? Or an argument in any way?

So why bring it up then? Voldy couldn't kill harry and I'm glad you admit there is nothing impressive about it or excuses that make it good.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So why bring it up then? Voldy couldn't kill harry and I'm glad you admit there is nothing impressive about it or excuses that make it good.

Sup KT, where is Quan?

Where's THE clownshoes... Good question Time, probably trying to figure out how to grow taller and be a mans man

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Where's THE clownshoes... Good question Time, probably trying to figure out how to grow taller and be a mans man

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Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You're not understanding Senor Shoes... They intentionally slow it down for us to be able to see them even running, let alone fighting. Human perception wouldn't be able to see a thing in real terms. If they wanted to intentionally make a movie be like real life and perception than much of the action scenes would be blurs or not even seeing a thing. So real time movement don't apply since we know they have to slow them down in order for us to see what is happening.

You're a complete idiot, I'm like a total smush face midget moron. Sidious SLOWLY raises his hand for dramatic effect.. not because he's that slow you idiot. WE see him moving at super speeds when he killed the 3 Jedi.. We see him moving super fast fighting Yoda and countering Yoda's super fast movement and flipping all over the place. That's why you can never win a debate with me because you're an absolute moron who doesn't know how to argue. Just so we're clear... You think Sidious raises his hand slow before he fires lighting because that's as fast as he can raise his hand? Try not to lie midget

So you have no feats showing Voldy resisting TP than? Okay good, Sidious wins as soon as the fight starts. His speed is vastly faster than Voldy and Voldy has zero TP resistance feats. Game over Sids wins.

No, they do not. We have seen Hondo and pirates take Dooku, Anakin, and Obi as prisoners despite them having supposedly slower. You are making things up again with no proof. We see Jango Fett, Cad Bane, and others take on jedi and Sith no problems. We can tell when someone is faster based in reactionary time and blurs like in Man of steel, true blood, etc.

Sidious slows raises his hand as we see how slow of a reactionary feat Yoda failed to stop it. Awful. He killed three weak jedi and then was defeated by Windu. I never said that was the quickest he could react, long face. You can't'the debate for shit because you never provide evidence.

You have no feats of Palpatine mindraping. You need to prove he can Mindrape someone in combat. Prove something. That is how debating works. You can't make a baseless claim and then say disprove it.

Originally posted by Psychotron
And what difference does that make? Voldemort is powerless to resist the Force choke either way.

LOL, she won because she saved her son and reduced Voldemort to nothing more than a bad memory. Voldemort got BTFO by a soccer mom, deal with it. Vader, a man who was feared by the entire galaxy, was scared shitless by the Emperor.

"Laid in wait like a coward"? No, not at all. He was building up his power and influence, he led both the Republic and the CIS, so he was the most powerful man in the galaxy even before he created the Empire. On the other hand, Voldemort was living on the back of some dude's head like a lowly parasite. Sidious took over an entire galaxy with his intelligence and manipulation, Riddle couldn't even take over one school. Dooku scheming against him doesn't mean anything if he didn't have the balls to act on it.

The key words here are "off guard", he was a mach for Yoda when they fought. Sidious wrecked 3 Jedi Masters in seconds and casually defeated Maul and Savage, both of whom are far above most Jedi. Voldemort has nothing on that. He fled from Dumbledore and was defeated by a child.

Fiennes and Oldman completely phoned it in and only did it for the money. And Harry Potter has more films than Star Wars, plus there are things like inflation that you haven't factored in. And again, BO =/= quality.

Bullshit. The Force can do many things like lightning, tk, precog, enhanced physical abilities amongst others. Then there's Mother Talzing's magic, Sith Sorcery, and the Ones. And that's without counting the EU.

Sidious was pretending he couldn't keep up the lightning attack and you know it.

Please, you're the one who was going to chase me off the board with your irrefutable proof and you chickened out. You're a joke.

No, he is not. He can counter. He also has tk. It's like saying Yoda cannot counter when he possesses the same ability.

Another lie. You're stupid. She died and he came back. She remained dead. Voldemort killed her and she was a witch. She was not a soccer mom, dummy. Vader a man known for crying and being a pansy hip tossed his boss to death. He didn't fear palpatine and crushed him she he wanted to.

He hid his identity because he is a pansy and needed a galactic army to rise to power. In combat Windu sonned him. Voldemort came back from his body dying. Let's see Palpatine do that. Palpatine manipulated like a politician hiding his true intentions and manipulating the putzes in the senate. Dooku's new apprentice turned on him. People were afraid to look Voldemort in the eye whereas Palpatine's apprentice planned his betrayal at one point.

Voldemort did not flee from Dumbledore who has the most powerful wand in existence. The Aurors showed up and he then left. He had knocked Dumbledore off his feet and looked far more impressive of the two in their duel. Palpatine begged for his own life against one opponent who disarmed him. Context. Palaptine lost in a fair fight. The same magic that protected Harry has no relevance in here so please make a rational point if you can.

No, they didn't and most actors do it for the money you complete child. How many actors act for free. Quit being obtuse. It is still more successful at this point and has superior acting, films.

That isn't much. Magic in potter can do a host of things as well as kill with one blast. Pottwr magic is far more potent than force users. The Sith witches were ass and were slaughtered easily by the droids in a day. No force powers just assraping those weaklings.

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No, he was not. Palpatine was defeated. Fact. Windu won. I already have proven you to be an child and punked Star Wars fans in general. I'm amazing.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Where's THE clownshoes... Good question Time, probably trying to figure out how to grow taller and be a mans man
Says the lanky, awkward, ugly guy with an ugly gf. You're a loser, face it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, he is not. He can counter. He also has tk. It's like saying Yoda cannot counter when he possesses the same ability.

Another lie. You're stupid. She died and he came back. She remained dead. Voldemort killed her and she was a witch. She was not a soccer mom, dummy. Vader a man known for crying and being a pansy hip tossed his boss to death. He didn't fear palpatine and crushed him she he wanted to.

He hid his identity because he is a pansy and needed a galactic army to rise to power. In combat Windu sonned him. Voldemort came back from his body dying. Let's see Palpatine do that. Palpatine manipulated like a politician hiding his true intentions and manipulating the putzes in the senate. Dooku's new apprentice turned on him. People were afraid to look Voldemort in the eye whereas Palpatine's apprentice planned his betrayal at one point.

Voldemort did not flee from Dumbledore who has the most powerful wand in existence. The Aurors showed up and he then left. He had knocked Dumbledore off his feet and looked far more impressive of the two in their duel. Palpatine begged for his own life against one opponent who disarmed him. Context. Palaptine lost in a fair fight. The same magic that protected Harry has no relevance in here so please make a rational point if you can.

No, they didn't and most actors do it for the money you complete child. How many actors act for free. Quit being obtuse. It is still more successful at this point and has superior acting, films.

That isn't much. Magic in potter can do a host of things as well as kill with one blast. Pottwr magic is far more potent than force users. The Sith witches were ass and were slaughtered easily by the droids in a day. No force powers just assraping those weaklings.

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No, he was not. Palpatine was defeated. Fact. Windu won. I already have proven you to be an child and punked Star Wars fans in general. I'm amazing.

Yoda has the Force, he can resist Palpatine's Force attacks. Voldemort doesn't have that advantage.

You wish, fatty. Voldemort needed outside help to reform his body. Sidious has never needed help, he was always one step ahead oh his opponents. Vader =/= Anakin, he says so himself.

Oh, and Voldemort didn't need an army? He attacked Hogwarts all by himself, is that what you're saying? Sidious let Mace win, as you know. Voldemort didn't come back on his own, he needed help, and Sidious came back without outside help in Dark Empire. So now what? People were shitting themselves at the mere mention of the Emperor, look at the beginning of RotJ when Vader arrives on the Death Star II. Scheming against your master is part of being a Sith, the fact that he didn't act against Sidious is telling enough.

No, he definitely fled before they arrived. It had been outright stated that Voldemort fears Dumbledore, and it showed. He didn't look more impressive, he was getting his pale anus penetrated by Dumbledore's elder "wand" throughout the fight. Context indeed, it was obvious Sidious faked the power loss to seduce Anakin. He would have killed Mace with the Force otherwise.

Of course the did it for money, that doesn't mean they gave a shit about the movie. They didn't put in much effort, and why would they? It's a series for fat kids and autists.

Magic may be more versatile, but the Force is just more useful in a fight. There's nothing Riddle can do to resist being TKed into a wall as soon as Sidious wills it.

😆 How did Windu win? By getting his hand chopped off and thrown out a window? Is that how Voldemort will "win" too? You're the same loser who got buttflustered when I posted a picture, you were so jelly you had to yell roids to make yourself feel better.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Yoda has the Force, he can resist Palpatine's Force attacks. Voldemort doesn't have that advantage.

You wish, fatty. Voldemort needed outside help to reform his body. Sidious has never needed help, he was always one step ahead oh his opponents. Vader =/= Anakin, he says so himself.

Oh, and Voldemort didn't need an army? He attacked Hogwarts all by himself, is that what you're saying? Sidious let Mace win, as you know. Voldemort didn't come back on his own, he needed help, and Sidious came back without outside help in Dark Empire. So now what? People were shitting themselves at the mere mention of the Emperor, look at the beginning of RotJ when Vader arrives on the Death Star II. Scheming against your master is part of being a Sith, the fact that he didn't act against Sidious is telling enough.

No, he definitely fled before they arrived. It had been outright stated that Voldemort fears Dumbledore, and it showed. He didn't look more impressive, he was getting his pale anus penetrated by Dumbledore's elder "wand" throughout the fight. Context indeed, it was obvious Sidious faked the power loss to seduce Anakin. He would have killed Mace with the Force otherwise.

Of course the did it for money, that doesn't mean they gave a shit about the movie. They didn't put in much effort, and why would they? It's a series for fat kids and autists.

Magic may be more versatile, but the Force is just more useful in a fight. There's nothing Riddle can do to resist being TKed into a wall as soon as Sidious wills it.

😆 How did Windu win? By getting his hand chopped off and thrown out a window? Is that how Voldemort will "win" too? You're the same loser who got buttflustered when I posted a picture, you were so jelly you had to yell roids to make yourself feel better.

Having the force Doesnt mean anything. They can use the force against each other and it comes down to who is prepared and reflexes. Hence why we see Maul force push Obi into a vulnerable position. We also see Yoda effectively force push Palpatine backwards. Palpatine is not immune because he can interact with the force. TK can affect them both the same.

Says the juicehead. Sidious used a galactic empire, Vader, etc. to wipe out the jedi. When Yoda tried confronting him he initially tried to leave. Pussy. Sidious had more help than anyone, begged for his own life, and tried to run from a three foot tall stuffed animal.

He needed an army to take on an army. He was there though. Palpatine was not on the front lines of the battles. He sent vader out to lead the charge.

No, lucas said Windu won. Your Star Wars knowledge is pathetic. Dark empire is not canon, dummy. Vader did act and he was successful in killing him. 😂

People were afraid of mentioning Voldemort's name. Palpatine shit bricks when Yoda confronted him and begged for his life against Windu.

No, they saw him. That is why Minister says, he's back. They would not believe Voldemort is back and vindicate Dumbledore and Potter if they didn't see him. Watch the films, ignoramus. Voldemort fought him straight up. Palpatine tried avoiding Yoda. Yoda called his ***** ass out. Voldemort took on Dumbledore and Potter. Dumbledore ended up on his backside. I know you're always send to ended up on your backside but that isn't ideal, beta male. Windu won. Palpatine begged. False as Windu reflected the lightning back. Yoda also blocked it. Lol.

Why wouldn't they put a lot of effort in movies far more successful than anything they have been involved in previously. Lots of people loved it not thetypical Star Wars outcasts.

Use tk himself or Crucio him. Palpatine has no defense against Crucio. Nothing he can do. One spell and he is at his mercy.

Windu disarmed him and beat him. Palpatine needed Anakin to intervene and kill him because hee lost the fight. 😂

You were ugly and used Roids. Cheater.

Voldemort wins, cheater.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Having the force Doesnt mean anything. They can use the force against each other and it comes down to who is prepared and reflexes. Hence why we see Maul force push Obi into a vulnerable position. We also see Yoda effectively force push Palpatine backwards. Palpatine is not immune because he can interact with the force. TK can affect them both the same.

Says the juicehead. Sidious used a galactic empire, Vader, etc. to wipe out the jedi. When Yoda tried confronting him he initially tried to leave. Pussy. Sidious had more help than anyone, begged for his own life, and tried to run from a three foot tall stuffed animal.

He needed an army to take on an army. He was there though. Palpatine was not on the front lines of the battles. He sent vader out to lead the charge.

No, lucas said Windu won. Your Star Wars knowledge is pathetic. Dark empire is not canon, dummy. Vader did act and he was successful in killing him. 😂

People were afraid of mentioning Voldemort's name. Palpatine shit bricks when Yoda confronted him and begged for his life against Windu.

No, they saw him. That is why Minister says, he's back. They would not believe Voldemort is back and vindicate Dumbledore and Potter if they didn't see him. Watch the films, ignoramus. Voldemort fought him straight up. Palpatine tried avoiding Yoda. Yoda called his ***** ass out. Voldemort took on Dumbledore and Potter. Dumbledore ended up on his backside. I know you're always send to ended up on your backside but that isn't ideal, beta male. Windu won. Palpatine begged. False as Windu reflected the lightning back. Yoda also blocked it. Lol.

Why wouldn't they put a lot of effort in movies far more successful than anything they have been involved in previously. Lots of people loved it not thetypical Star Wars outcasts.

Use tk himself or Crucio him. Palpatine has no defense against Crucio. Nothing he can do. One spell and he is at his mercy.

Windu disarmed him and beat him. Palpatine needed Anakin to intervene and kill him because hee lost the fight. 😂

You were ugly and used Roids. Cheater.

Voldemort wins, cheater.

You have no clue, do you? Force users can block the Force powers of other Force users, like Yoda absorbing Sidious' lightning without a lightsaber. If they couldn't do that they'd just spam Force attacks at each other. All this is irrelevant, though. Sidious is just too fast and his TK too potent for Voldemort to resist. Palpatine was affected because he didn't protect himself against Yoda.

You wish, fatty. He built that galactic empire, they were all his servants and minions. What has Voldemort every created? Nothing. He still defeated Yoda, the most powerful Jedi in existence, that's all that matters.

He didn't need Vader, he simply used him. Why would he bother with such insignificant things when he's master of an entire galaxy?

Lucas doesn't matter anymore, and Dark Empire was only an example. Vader killed him by attacking him while he was distracted, he didn't have the balls to openly defy him, and it still cost him his life.

No, that's not how it happened. I don't why you keep bullshitting, we've all seen that part. Also, Voldemort fled from just Dumbledore, while Sidious took on Mace and 3 other Jedi Masters. It's pretty obvious who had more balls. He still defeated Yoda, unlike Voldemort. "I know you're always send to ended up" what does that even mean? I know you're getting frustrated because you and your 3rd rate villain are getting wrecked, but try to be more focused. Windu only reflected the lightning when Sidious started faking his loss of power. Yoda blocked it because he's the most powerful Jedi ever, and he was visibly straining.

Lots of people? Ahahahaha, you mean lots of children. I can just imagine you sitting in a dark theater surrounded by kids, your lard spilling over on both sides of your seat.

It's a good thing Palpatine is much faster, and doesn't need a wand or an incantation to use his powers. This fight is over as soon as Sidious wills a TK or choke.

He didn't need Anakin, he only took advantage of the situation.

You wish I was on roids, loser. I bench pressed 170kg two weeks ago and I've never done any kind of drugs. How mad are you, fatty?
Palpatine destroys with ease.

Voldemort sucks donkey balls and so does that entire hurting series. Sidious is the most powerful force user of the films (so far) he'd penetrate Voldemort, no lube

Originally posted by Psychotron
You have no clue, do you? Force users can block the Force powers of other Force users, like Yoda absorbing Sidious' lightning without a lightsaber. If they couldn't do that they'd just spam Force attacks at each other. All this is irrelevant, though. Sidious is just too fast and his TK too potent for Voldemort to resist. Palpatine was affected because he didn't protect himself against Yoda.

You wish, fatty. He built that galactic empire, they were all his servants and minions. What has Voldemort every created? Nothing. He still defeated Yoda, the most powerful Jedi in existence, that's all that matters.

He didn't need Vader, he simply used him. Why would he bother with such insignificant things when he's master of an entire galaxy?

Lucas doesn't matter anymore, and Dark Empire was only an example. Vader killed him by attacking him while he was distracted, he didn't have the balls to openly defy him, and it still cost him his life.

No, that's not how it happened. I don't why you keep bullshitting, we've all seen that part. Also, Voldemort fled from just Dumbledore, while Sidious took on Mace and 3 other Jedi Masters. It's pretty obvious who had more balls. He still defeated Yoda, unlike Voldemort. "I know you're always send to ended up" what does that even mean? I know you're getting frustrated because you and your 3rd rate villain are getting wrecked, but try to be more focused. Windu only reflected the lightning when Sidious started faking his loss of power. Yoda blocked it because he's the most powerful Jedi ever, and he was visibly straining.

Lots of people? Ahahahaha, you mean lots of children. I can just imagine you sitting in a dark theater surrounded by kids, your lard spilling over on both sides of your seat.

It's a good thing Palpatine is much faster, and doesn't need a wand or an incantation to use his powers. This fight is over as soon as Sidious wills a TK or choke.

He didn't need Anakin, he only took advantage of the situation.

You wish I was on roids, loser. I bench pressed 170kg two weeks ago and I've never done any kind of drugs. How mad are you, fatty?
Palpatine destroys with ease.

He used a force shield to block the lightning. Wizards from potter can also use shields to block attacks as well. It is called a counter. Voldemort can block the force lightning by his own means.

No, he is not as evidenced by the amount of time Sidious uses in battle compared to Voldemort. So you admit one force attack did not defeat him nor has it easily defeated any self respecting opponent. Acting as if it is this easy minus proof is delusional and ignoring Voldemort's abilities.

Hush, roid rage. No, he used other people to help build his army aka Dooku. He was a master manipulator who hid in the shadows. Cowardly. Horcruxes. He came back to life. He intimidated an entire world of people who shared his same abilities. Sidious did defeat him but do not ignore it was due to time constraints and the fact Yoda missed his opportunity befor help arrived. It also doesn't overshadow the fact Sidious tried leaving like a coward on top of the fact he said Vader would become more powerful than either of them. Dummy.

He needed Vader as he made clear when he went to save him after Obi beat that ass. Vader hip tossed his feminine body over the rails. Poor frail, old guy.

Lucas does still matter and disney matters more so. Disney decided eu does not count. 😂

That is what happened and the fact you are denying an obvious fact destroys any credibility you thought you once had. Aurors showed up and he left. You're ignoring Harry, dumbledore, and the Aurors. Sidious lost and begged. Voldemort did not lose. Dumbledore and Sidious both ended up on their backsides. 😂

Voldemort is far greater than Palpatine who in the end was a coward killed his by apprentice. Failure.

Many adults love Harry Potter. Saying only kids without proof is like saying hey guys I don't use juice. 😂

Voldemort used magic pre wand and has it inside of him. Quit lying. Voldemort uses Crucio, tk, Avada Kedavra, fireballs, etc. and can kill him with a single attack. I have already proven Voldemort can counter being suffocated. 😂

False. He needed Vader and admitted his power would surpass his own despite knowing apprentices kill masters. Dummy.

You need to start telling the truth, liar.

Originally posted by relentless1
Voldemort sucks donkey balls and so does that entire hurting series. Sidious is the most powerful force user of the films (so far) he'd penetrate Voldemort, no lube
False. Voldemort is more powerful, more courageous, more dangerous, and far more versatile.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He used a force shield to block the lightning. Wizards from potter can also use shields to block attacks as well. It is called a counter. Voldemort can block the force lightning by his own means.

No, he is not as evidenced by the amount of time Sidious uses in battle compared to Voldemort. So you admit one force attack did not defeat him nor has it easily defeated any self respecting opponent. Acting as if it is this easy minus proof is delusional and ignoring Voldemort's abilities.

Hush, roid rage. No, he used other people to help build his army aka Dooku. He was a master manipulator who hid in the shadows. Cowardly. Horcruxes. He came back to life. He intimidated an entire world of people who shared his same abilities. Sidious did defeat him but do not ignore it was due to time constraints and the fact Yoda missed his opportunity befor help arrived. It also doesn't overshadow the fact Sidious tried leaving like a coward on top of the fact he said Vader would become more powerful than either of them. Dummy.

He needed Vader as he made clear when he went to save him after Obi beat that ass. Vader hip tossed his feminine body over the rails. Poor frail, old guy.

Lucas does still matter and disney matters more so. Disney decided eu does not count. 😂

That is what happened and the fact you are denying an obvious fact destroys any credibility you thought you once had. Aurors showed up and he left. You're ignoring Harry, dumbledore, and the Aurors. Sidious lost and begged. Voldemort did not lose. Dumbledore and Sidious both ended up on their backsides. 😂

Voldemort is far greater than Palpatine who in the end was a coward killed his by apprentice. Failure.

Many adults love Harry Potter. Saying only kids without proof is like saying hey guys I don't use juice. 😂

Voldemort used magic pre wand and has it inside of him. Quit lying. Voldemort uses Crucio, tk, Avada Kedavra, fireballs, etc. and can kill him with a single attack. I have already proven Voldemort can counter being suffocated. 😂

False. He needed Vader and admitted his power would surpass his own despite knowing apprentices kill masters. Dummy.

You need to start telling the truth, liar.

He didn't use any shield, he absorbed the lightning via tutaminis. That's an ability Voldemort doesn't posses. He won't block anything when he's blitzed by Sidious.

Why would Sidious enter battle when he can have his underlings do it? That would be ridiculous, he is the freaking Emperor. It easily defeated Maul and Savage, both of them are far above your average Jedi.

It's not cowardly, it's intelligent. Sidious was up against the entire Jedi Order, which numbered in the thousands, and he defeated them all. People like Dooku were just pawns to him. Voldemort is the real coward, he hid on the back of some dude's head, like a lowly parasite, and its flat out stated that he was afraid of Dumbledore. Sidious defeated Yoda, no ifs or buts. Voldemort, on the other hand, fled from Dumbledore. Vader could have become more powerful than them if it wasn't for Obi-Wan.

He didn't need Vader, he wanted to have him as his apprentice due to his potential. He was perfectly willing to replace him. Getting killed by a 6'6 cyborg Jedi hunter is still better than being defeated by a schoolboy.

Yes, most of the EU doesn't count anymore, and neither does Lucas.

He left before they got there, stop being a retard. Also, Sidious had the courage to face Mace Windu + 3 other Jedi Masters, unlike Voldemort.

Killed by his apprentice >>> killed by a child. At least Vader was powerful, Harry was a mediocre wizard.

All of them have magic inside them, they still need wands to focus their more powerful spells. Sidious could easily disarm Voldemort with his powerful TK. You haven't proven Voldemort can resist being choked.

Please, its a series of children's books. I read them when I was kid and I grew out of them just like everyone else did. Everyone except menchildren like you, that is.

Nope, Vader could have become more powerful if he wasn't crippled by Obi-Wan. After that he was just a servant.

You're the one lying through your teeth.

I liked Harry Potter when I was 12. Then in high school I grew up and saw what quality fiction actually was and got into way better fictions