High end MHS to low Relativistic reactions when he reacted and blocked (#1 #2 #3) this laser
Aside from that he's far faster than hypersonic characters, even early on characters in the manga were evading machine gun fire. Later on characters like Yoh were able to, if barely, react to natural lightning. Yoh is also complete fodder to Hao here. So either way he has the speed needed here.
He also has the ability to reflect non-physical attacks (#1 #2), unconsciously at that. Its shown by a weaker character that it can work of a variety of spells etc, so it'll cause issues for genjutsu.
Here we have an X-Law, a group who extensively study the power and combat potential of Hao, saying how Town level force is nothing against him.
Offensively he's able to set people ablaze with a thought, he doesn't even have to look at them. (#1 #2)
The guy has mastered control over fire, water, wood, metal and wind. So any attacks using them are useless.
For even greater power there is a fallen Angel spirit called Azazel. Its power is so immense that it can easily destroy an island in a fraction of a second. Hao's reaction is to casually curb-stomp it with a smile on his face.
Then theres his ability to read minds. As shown in the manga this makes it impossible to form strategies or surprises against him.
He's able to summon Oni, really strong ones at that. Not nearly as strong as him, but definitely threats in this thread.
His Kinji Jusatsu, literally a killing spell, removes the soul of the user from their body with the limitation that the target must believe in life after death.
Finally is the Fumon Tonkou. This ability allows the use to not only read the opponents energy in order to see what they will do next, a form of precog, but to also nullify the energy in attacks. A highly desirable move.
All of that is the normal Hao. When he fuses with the Great Spirit, his new form is on a completely different level. So much that the 5 Elemental Spirits (note that all of the above was done while using one of these spirits) combined are still nothing to him but nuisances. For example in this stage he is able to kill you and absorb your soul with just a thought, like the Kinji Jusatsu, however this works on everyone regardless of beliefs. He uses this to absorb everyone on the island. (#1 #2 #3)
Originally posted by BloodRain
High end MHS to low Relativistic reactions when he reacted and blocked (#1 #2 #3) this laser
Aside from that he's far faster than hypersonic characters, even early on characters in the manga were evading machine gun fire. Later on characters like Yoh were able to, if barely, react to natural lightning. Yoh is also complete fodder to Hao here. So either way he has the speed needed here.He also has the ability to reflect non-physical attacks (#1 #2), unconsciously at that. Its shown by a weaker character that it can work of a variety of spells etc, so it'll cause issues for genjutsu.
Here we have an X-Law, a group who extensively study the power and combat potential of Hao, saying how Town level force is nothing against him.
Offensively he's able to set people ablaze with a thought, he doesn't even have to look at them. (#1 #2)
The guy has mastered control over fire, water, wood, metal and wind. So any attacks using them are useless.For even greater power there is a fallen Angel spirit called Azazel. Its power is so immense that it can easily destroy an island in a fraction of a second. Hao's reaction is to casually curb-stomp it with a smile on his face.
Then theres his ability to read minds. As shown in the manga this makes it impossible to form strategies or surprises against him.
He's able to summon Oni, really strong ones at that. Not nearly as strong as him, but definitely threats in this thread.
His Kinji Jusatsu, literally a killing spell, removes the soul of the user from their body with the limitation that the target must believe in life after death.
Finally is the Fumon Tonkou. This ability allows the use to not only read the opponents energy in order to see what they will do next, a form of precog, but to also nullify the energy in attacks. A highly desirable move.
All of that is the normal Hao. When he fuses with the Great Spirit, his new form is on a completely different level. So much that the 5 Elemental Spirits (note that all of the above was done while using one of these spirits) combined are still nothing to him but nuisances. For example in this stage he is able to kill you and absorb your soul with just a thought, like the Kinji Jusatsu, however this works on everyone regardless of beliefs. He uses this to absorb everyone on the island. (#1 #2 #3)
"Man, you suck at using scans.", to quote DP.
Also, those feats are exaggerated by you, and untrue. The shit done in Shaman king is outshined by Jiraiya's feats alone.
I guess it can't be helped, time for some mini-suns and black holes. Maybe som comet swords for good measure too. These are the big boy feats but Hao doesn't need them in this fight:
mini-sun feats
http://www.mangapanda.com/138-30755-7/shaman-king/chapter-299.html
http://www.mangapanda.com/138-30755-19/shaman-king/chapter-299.html
http://www.mangapanda.com/138-30755-20/shaman-king/chapter-299.html
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/shaman_king_kang_zeng_bang/v27/c299/21.html
comet feats:
http://www.mangapanda.com/138-30755-12/shaman-king/chapter-299.html
http://www.mangapanda.com/138-30755-13/shaman-king/chapter-299.html
black hole feat:
http://www.mangapanda.com/138-30755-22/shaman-king/chapter-299.html
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
I guess it can't be helped, time for some mini-suns and black holes. Maybe som comet swords for good measure too. These are the big boy feats but Hao doesn't need them in this fight:
mini-sun feats
http://www.mangapanda.com/138-30755-7/shaman-king/chapter-299.html
http://www.mangapanda.com/138-30755-19/shaman-king/chapter-299.html
http://www.mangapanda.com/138-30755-20/shaman-king/chapter-299.html
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/shaman_king_kang_zeng_bang/v27/c299/21.htmlcomet feats:
http://www.mangapanda.com/138-30755-12/shaman-king/chapter-299.html
http://www.mangapanda.com/138-30755-13/shaman-king/chapter-299.htmlblack hole feat:
http://www.mangapanda.com/138-30755-22/shaman-king/chapter-299.html
Pfft, since you obviously haven't heard, the name of an attack means NOTHING unless the name is backed up by feats.
The "mini sun feats", you presented, are demonstrably simple fireballs. Jackass.
LOL, same thing with the "comet feat", that happens to be a ball of nitrogen and ice, something that even Haku could deal with.
Black hole feat... Really? Is that why it only started sucking out their souls? Last time I checked, a technique that sucks someones soul in and seals it, even if called a black hole, isn't really a black hole at all. Unless you're also saying that Vegeta's Big bang attack was really as powerful as the big bang, or that Sasuke's amaterasu is really more powerful than the sun itself.
Originally posted by Bentley
Or that Tien Shin Han's Lightspeed punch it's a lightspeed move, pure nonsense 😛
Read my post again.
"the name of an attack means NOTHING unless the name is backed up by feats."
👆
Kid Goku was able to demonstrably travel more distance than light itself, and in a shorter time, just by running to grab Roshi's sunglasses.
It's pretty safe to assume that Tien could at least punch that fast, when he was keeping up with Goku the entire fight, and eventually won.
It's completely different than someone calling their attack a mini sun, just like in FMAB when father created a "sun" in his hand, that would have destroyed a building if expanded(which is FAR less than the capacity of an actual star in terms of destruction).
I posted that to show how silly he was to claim those scans to be cosmic level feats when they were clearly smaller by BILLIONS of leagues than any of the things they claimed to represent.
Well can you prove that its not a mini-sun then? Also I don't know that many fireball in anime that emit radiation and fry things w/o actually being near them. Would also like to point out that Hao had already absorbed their souls by that point and the black hole mentioned was created by the gravitational collapse of a mini-sun. Then there's this:
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/shaman_king_kang_zeng_bang/v27/c299/9.html
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/shaman_king_kang_zeng_bang/v27/c299/10.html
Then again because the whole battle inside of GS was an abstract, it's a tad iffy to tell how these attack would actually affect the material world. Would like to point out that Hao doesn't actually need a physical body once he has GS as well:
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/shaman_king_kang_zeng_bang/v27/c297/22.html
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/shaman_king_kang_zeng_bang/v27/c297/24.html
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/shaman_king_kang_zeng_bang/v27/c297/25.html
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Well can you prove that its not a mini-sun then? Also I don't know that many fireball in anime that emit radiation and fry things w/o actually being near them. Would also like to point out that Hao had already absorbed their souls by that point and the black hole mentioned was created by the gravitational collapse of a mini-sun. Then there's this:
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/shaman_king_kang_zeng_bang/v27/c299/9.html
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/shaman_king_kang_zeng_bang/v27/c299/10.htmlThen again because the whole battle inside of GS was an abstract, it's a tad iffy to tell how these attack would actually affect the material world. Would like to point out that Hao doesn't actually need a physical body once he has GS as well:
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/shaman_king_kang_zeng_bang/v27/c297/22.html
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/shaman_king_kang_zeng_bang/v27/c297/24.html
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/shaman_king_kang_zeng_bang/v27/c297/25.html
lol, burden of proof rests on the one who makes the claim, genius. I know of plenty of flames that do that. Or any large flame that generates heat. 👆
Hm, would like to point out that he obviously hadn't if he could do it a second time.
You swapped that around. Hao had a body, but no soul. He obviously DOES need a physical body. 👆
^He was inside GS when that happend and I'm legit curious as to whether or not you outright ignored the scan I posted of Hao being able to kill Yoh after having his head cut off.
Also where are these fireball that you speak of because I would like to see them. I already know Hao's mini-sun don't pack the punch of the real thing since the characters say as much in the actual fight. Also, while you're debating the legitimacy of Hao's grand feats, can you answer exactly what any of the Sannin are supposed to do against a guy who could in all honesty kill them with a passing glance.
