Originally posted by maxivitopowe
Okay to all the people who are getting to discount the moon feat you have one if four choices
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[*]It was an amazing speed feat with him flying to and from the moon to gather more paint qnd he did this within a couple of minutes so that no one would notice
[*]It was an amazing strength and speed feat with him carrying that much paint and doing the painting
[*]He scraped off a sizable chunk of the moon
[*]Theron's talk about them being gods wasn't hyperbolic and he has some manner of godly power one of which may be reality warping
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Originally posted by maxivitopowe
okay so its a considerable speed feat then Hancock vs MoS Supes | Spacebattles.com
all the math was done here^
Originally posted by EpicurusNope, he was on his knees and got up. That's why the pilot said to attack him again immediately.
[B]IIRC, machine gun fire was what took out the Gregor Clegane sized Kryptonian who was getting the better of Superman. I'll rewatch the movie just to be sure. Edit: Resaw it. Machine gun fire definitely at the very least flash-koed him. Indisputable.
Perry White and his crew were surviving in the middle of all those skyscrapers and infrastructure getting destroyed by the terraforming. Indisputable.They didn't survive the gravity beam. It wasn't increasing gravity everywhere. You are terrible at this.
How the heck is it ambiguous?In every way?
We clearly see the outlines on the image, we clearly see the indentations. Even if you want to claim that Hancock painted that symbol, that doesn't override the fact that said painting was done over gigantic carving, or Hancock being capable of carrying a lake's worth of red paint to the moon in a such a span of time that nobody noticed it until it he pointed it out?Again speculations? Not surprised TBH. Stick to one point, don't become ZopZop.
The evidence was already posted. Try and keep up.Don't become snake-eyes. Its not a proof. At all.
Not as mad as a certain insane Super-fan.Heh, "No you". Pitiful.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Nope, he was on his knees and got up. That's why the pilot said to attack him again immediately.They didn't survive the gravity beam. It wasn't increasing gravity everywhere. You are terrible at this.
In every way? Again speculations? Not surprised TBH. Stick to one point, don't become ZopZop.
Don't become snake-eyes. Its not a proof. At all.
Heh, "No you". Pitiful.
They were surviving the destruction caused by the terraforming process which consisted of the gravity beam. Since the destruction caused is what we're using to gauge the impressiveness of the feat after all...
So now you are blind in addition to being a liar and an insane fanboy. Or is it just another instance of you outright denying proof in favor of a Superman-peer?
Lol at the the guy who makes fun of cancer-afflicted infants trying to insinuate that I am a troll.
You should rename yourself as ironylegend. That would be far more appropriate.
Originally posted by Epicurus
Even if for the briefest of moments, it absolutely did. He was put down by heavy artillery despite the kryptonian armor. You denying it makes you a liar in addition to an insane fanboy.They were surviving the destruction caused by the terraforming process which consisted of the gravity beam. Since the destruction caused is what we're using to gauge the impressiveness of the feat after all...
So now you are blind in addition to being a liar and an insane fanboy. Or is it just another instance of you outright denying proof in favor of a Superman-peer?
Lol at the the guy who makes fun of cancer-afflicted infants trying to insinuate that I am a troll.
You should rename yourself as ironylegend. That would be far more appropriate.
Haha, you are straight up lying now. They were not under the increased gravity. What does that scene shows anyway other than you are becoming a troll?
You are calling me blind? Hahaha, this is pure comedy.
Rich coming from someone who calls someone's wife a hooker.
Whatever internet tough guy. Tell us again of your "hooker sense".
Originally posted by abhilegend
He was on his knees, he was never out. It makes you a terrible watcher, nothing else.Haha, you are straight up lying now. They were not under the increased gravity. What does that scene shows anyway other than you are becoming a troll?
You are calling me blind? Hahaha, this is pure comedy.
Rich coming from someone who calls someone's wife a hooker.
Whatever internet tough guy. Tell us again of your "hooker sense".
Yes they were, which is evidenced by the various concrete and steel structures collapsing around them.
Of course I am. What next, you're going to ask me that I call the Earth round and Michael Jackson a pedophile?
Which is not even a tenth as bad as ridiculing a leukemia-ridden baby. LOL.
I'll do so the moment you do the same with your "cancer-baby sense".
Originally posted by Epicurus
Incorrect. That counts as him being put down, if not outright flash-KO'd. You can't even watch a movie without the fanboy goggles clouding your vision, lol.Yes they were, which is evidenced by the various concrete and steel structures collapsing around them.
Of course I am. What next, you're going to ask me that I call the Earth round and Michael Jackson a pedophile?
Which is not even a tenth as bad as ridiculing a leukemia-ridden baby. LOL.
I'll do so the moment you do the same with your "cancer-baby sense".
Nope, they were running away from that beam which was crushing cars and skyscrapers. That scene has nothing to do with Superman overpowering the gravity beam itself.
You sure know how to detect sarcasm, don't you?
I apologized for it. Everyone makes mistake and I had wished her well in the past. You didn't apologize though.
Now you're stepping over the line buddy. You can be an ******* all you want, I don't give a damn. But don't try to bring that here.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Why do people keep saying the World Engine was crushing Skyscrapers? Do people not know what that phrasing actually indicates?The World Engine was increasing gravity in waves and Skyscrapers were falling over as I remember. You don't need to be an engineer to understand the vast difference between unbalance the support structureand actually crushing them.
Although Superman was on the other side of the beam, which was the one terraforming the atmosphere IIRC so I don't understand why the gravity potential of the other end keeps being mentioned. AND exaggerated. 😬
The beam was clearly powerful enough to flatten cars and collapse skyscrapers on the other end of the planet. So Superman overpowering it while depowered is very impressive.
Originally posted by Psychotron
The beam was clearly powerful enough to flatten cars and collapse skyscrapers on the other end of the planet. So Superman overpowering it while depowered is very impressive.
Agreed, he was de powered and going up against a weapon that was destroying metropolis.
The machine even thought that it would kill him and threw him into the beam. He just just overpowered it, even being in a weaken state.
From Superhero wiki
Superhuman Strength:Hancock possesses immense superhuman strength,he has shown to throw an entire blue whale which was weighing about 190 tons back into the oceans with one throw.Superhuman Stamina:Hancock can be tireless for very long periods of time without breaking a sweat.
Superhuman Reflexes:Hancock's accelerated reflexes are far more faster than that of an ordinary human's.
Invulnerability:Hancock is invulnerable to all forms of injury.He has shown to be unharmed by a train hitting him,his skin have repelled bullets and was able to withstand a rocket launcher shell.It is possible to injure him only if he is near his pair.
Flight:Hancock is able to fly at supersonic speeds and is capable of interplanetary flight.
Superhuman Hearing:Hancock was able to hear Mary and Ray's conversation when he was on the roof of their house wich was made of bricks.
Immunity:Hancock is immune to various toxins and diseases.
Immortality:Hancock lived for thousands of years and will for thousands of years again and again.He cannot die unless being affected by his weakness.
Regeneration:Hancock possesses a well developed regeneration or accelerated healing process in which enables him to recover from injuries in matter of seconds to a matter of minutes.
vsFrom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_side_of_the_Moon
The near side of the moon at best during a full moon shows 59% of its total surface area. The total surface area is around 14.6 million square miles in which the near side is roughly 8.6 million square miles.
Given that people look up at the sky, they would notice some weird shit happening to the moon. For people to not see what's going on means Hancock at least has to travel a majority of that distance in under 30 seconds or less.
The amount of speed and agility to pull this off will easily speed blitz a few kryptonians like this...
Alright, I found some feats from Man of Steel, and it seems like Hancock takes this. In a landslide.
YouTube videoThe train is about 15 meters away when Hancock lifts Ray's car, and traverses that distance in 5 seconds.
Distance: 15 meters
Time: 5 seconds
Speed: 3 m/s
While it is impossible to know exactly the weight of the entire train, a typical container train engine pulls along about 150 40-foot containers, but we'll use 100 just to be conservative. High end is up to 280. A single container is generally about 30 metric tons.
KE=(1/2)*(3,000,000kg)*(3m/s)^2
KE=13,500,000 joules
TNT Equivalent: 0.0000322kt or .00322tons of TNT
I just calced the Zod vs Superman fight, and it's not impressive.
YouTube video
Superman's actor, Cavil, is 1.85 meters tall. He is 102 units tall according to PixelStick.The distance between Superman and Zod is 628 units. Thus, we can see Superman and Zod were 11.39 meters apart.
Zod leaves the ground at 1 minute 23.8 seconds. He hits Superman at 1 minute 24.3, covering 11.39 meters in half a second. This gives him a speed of 22.78 m/s.
So...
Distance: 11.39 meters
Time: .5 second
Speed: 22.78 m/s
Assuming Zod weights 150 kilograms (very generous) in his armor, we have 150,000g.
KE= (1/2)*(150,000g)*(22.78m/s)^2
KE= 38,919,630 joules
TNT equivalent= .000009302 kilotons, or .009302 tons of TNT.
Superman gets hit with .009302 tons of TNT and struggles to get up, while Hancock tanks 3.22 tons of TNT and shrugges it off. It should be noted I used low end for Hancock while high end for Superman.EDIT: Considering, as Soulgazer mentioned, that Hancock was not hit by the full KE of the train, I shall divide the KE by 100.
0.0322 tons of TNT vs. 0.009302 tons of TNT. To put this into perspective, Superman fell over to 8.44 kilograms of TNT and Hancock wasn't even fazed by 29.2 kilograms. He certainly tanked more than that I but I don't know how to calc it.
Hancock victory.
Originally posted by maxivitopowe
From Superhero wikiThe amount of speed and agility to pull this off will easily speed blitz a few kryptonians like this...
That post is incorrect. It doesn't account for Zod's strength.