Hancock runs a Supes gauntlet

Started by maxivitopowe7 pages

Alright, here's the evidence, folks!
YouTube videoAt 1:36 the plane casually smashes into the World Engine. Distance from plane to point of impact is 89 units. I'm going to go high end and say it's a C-17 Globemaster III, which is 53 meters long. The length of the plane is 23 units, and the distance between the plane and the WE is 103 units. From there, we get 237.4 meters. The Globemaster covers that distance in about 1.1 seconds.
Distance: 237.4 meters
Time: 1.1 seconds
Speed: 215.45 m/s
The max takeoff weight of an Globemaster III is 265,350 kg, or 265,350,000 g.
KE= (1/2)*(265,350g)*(215.45m/s)^2
KE=6,158,601,400 joules
TNT equivalent= .00147 kilotons.

Again, not very impressive. A decisively small (relatively) amount of kinetic energy easily punctures through the side of the World Eater, where the armor should be the hardest. It should be noted that Supes also hit it from the bottom, where it was wide open. Also to be noted is that I used the highest end numbers I could find. Using a more reasonable aircraft decreases the yield by an order of magnitude.

He gets hit at less than sonic speeds into a building and doesn't get up for another 9 seconds
YouTube video
then escaping said falling building he goes tumbling into the ground

Not only that Superman clearly was not going that fast into the world engine, he was slowed down by a large extent and it still collapsed.

Here's how it works.

Lets say Superman was applying 10 in force. The world Engine was applying 7 in force. The engine decreased Superman's speed by a lot given he went way below sub-sonic.
(80 - 100 mph?)

10 - 7 = 3

So by this math the World Engine can be damaged with a minimum of 3 in force. This logic proves how the World Engine is not a very durable structure. Simple math.

[b/Good god, the physics in this thread. Alright, first of all, if you think you can get 1.47 kilotons from a FREAKING JET PLANE, you need to seriously reevaluate your math.

You use kilograms if you want to use meters per second and joules. This downscales you to about 6 gigajoules, keeping speed constant.[/b]

Oh, shit, I knew something was wrong. Now I feel terrible, since I'm minoring a physics degree 🙁. It's been too long since I did simple energy problems.
It doesn't matter. Just divide all my yields by 1,000.
More evidence:
YouTube video
Superman starts flying at 0:45, hits WE at 1:01.
Extrapolating from the destruction scene I posted earlier, the World Engine’s height is around
603.26 meters. And it really shouldn’t be, since its legs are outstretched.
Distance: 603.26 meters
Time: 16 seconds
Average Speed: 37.7 m/s
Taking acceleration into consideration, I have generously doubled the speed to use for final velocity.
Doubled speed: 75.4 m/s
Superman’s mass: 225 kg
KE= (1/2)*(225kg)*(75.4m/s)^2
KE= 639,580,500 joules
TNT equivalent: 0.000000153 kilotons.
Even if it was 24 hours, it's still an incredible speed feet. Assuming he can somehow alter 1 square mile of the moon per second as a free action (ridiculous! But we're lowballing so...), and supposing that only 10% of the moon's surface was altered he still travels 890,000 miles in 24 hours, that's > 10 miles per second (that's about 2 tons of KE for a 75 kg adult). Given the completely ridiculous assumption that him simply flying in a straight line over a square mile of the moon changes it like that.

Did you factor in that his tremendous speed in the moon-feat could have been due to him being in zero to low gravity?

Originally posted by Psychotron
That post is incorrect. It doesn't account for Zod's strength.

the strength was discounted

flying at someone with invulnerability doesn't really require strength

think of it this way...

its the difference between being shot with a bullet and being shot with a paintball

Originally posted by Robtard
Did you factor in that his tremendous speed in the moon-feat could have been due to him being in zero to low gravity?
i never did the math lol

All of those numbers are great but they don't account for Clarks will to win.

fts

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
fts

Him snapping Zod's neck is a good feat right?

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
the strength was discounted

flying at someone with invulnerability doesn't really require strength

think of it this way...

its the difference between being shot with a bullet and being shot with a paintball

No, it's not the same. If two people of equal weight and size throw a punch at the same speed the stronger guy will hit harder.

Originally posted by carver9
Max, that speed blitz scan, what movie is that off of?
Way to reveal that you've never watched Man of Steel.

Ha.

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
okay so its a considerable speed feat then Hancock vs MoS Supes | Spacebattles.com

if you wanna see the rast of the math go there^ page 5 upwards

Originally posted by NemeBro
Way to reveal that you've never watched Man of Steel.

😆 😆 😆 😆

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
if you wanna see the rast of the math go there^ page 5 upwards

Why? It's a bunch of fail-nerds that can't even remember to factor in zero/low gravity and how that would affect flight speed.

Originally posted by Robtard
Did you factor in that his tremendous speed in the moon-feat could have been due to him being in zero to low gravity?

People.never factor that in bec if they did, people like Surfer, Superman, and Gladiator would not be light speed since they've never done it on earth.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Way to reveal that you've never watched Man of Steel.

Be quiet. It looks different.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Way to reveal that you've never watched Man of Steel.

😂

Originally posted by carver9
Be quiet. It looks different.

How?

Superman.

Some of the cals in this thread are fishy as hell. First off, you can't calc the kinetic energy of a punch by 1/2mv^2... You just can't. A punch isn't a "projectile" there is a whole lot more to it than that. Hell, in the "durability" for the worldengine feat he doesn't take into account that there is a black hole in the plane...

Beyond that, he doesn't consider Superman's best feats but does so for Hancock. Superman's best speed feat is flying halfway across the world in what has to be minutes. And his best durability feat is directly tanking the Worldengine's gravitational pulse. A pulse so powerful that it leveled several blocks of Metropolis.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Superman.

Agreed.