Ragdolling, crushing, electrocuting, and draining Sion with such intensity everyone else onboard is disintegrated. :woah:
That's like... Atton Rand level man. What's Vitiate got to compete with a KOTOR II comp? I mean, we all know per the text Meetra would have rekt Vitiate with one saber throw if it weren't for Revan's weakness holding her back.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Ragdolling, crushing, electrocuting, and draining Sion with such intensity everyone else onboard is disintegrated. :woah:That's like... Atton Rand level man. What's Vitiate got to compete with a KOTOR II comp? I mean, we all know per the text Meetra would have rekt Vitiate with one saber throw if it weren't for Revan's weakness holding her back.
Now that made me reevaluate the entire TOR era. Nihilus > Vitiate confirmed. Learn from this Nadd.
Originally posted by Sinious
@ Freedon NaddSo the uniqueness of Nihilus is not his drain but his own connection to the Force? Got it.
That unique connection unfortunately doesn't put Nihilus above Vitiate.
Give me one combat achievement of Nihilus that is comparable to what Vitiate can bring.
Nihilus has no connection to the Force. Facepalm
Nihilus instinctively did in moments what took Vitiate decades to prepare and days enact. Katarr and Nathema were mirrors of each other. The reason he was defeated by the Exile is because of her particular nature as a wound in the Force,there isn't much that could hope to actually stand against Nihilus.
Admittedly, he could never have been the threat to the Galaxy that Vitiate was, but his nature makes him essentially invincible... other than the distinct possibility of starving to death. That's really the difference between them. Vitiate was immortal but not invincible, Nihilus was invincible but not immortal.
I don't like pitting anyone against Nihilus in a WWW situation. Nihilus is an object of great weirdness in the Star Wars universe. He essentially sucks the Force right out of anyone using it, and that means anyone. No matter how strong they are they can't really help but be drained by Nihilus's ability. Vitiate would get drained immediately.
And this is not to say Vitiate is weaker than Nihilus. But when you fight Nihilus it's not about strength or skill, if you're using the Force then you've lost.
The Exile is the only person who could have possibly defeated Nihilus simply because of the way she drew upon the Force. That is why I find asking "Darth Nihilus vs. X" almost pointless. Everyone would lose with the exception of those who draw upon the Force like the Exile did.
Originally posted by Sinious
One-shotting Traya, stomping Sion & friends, stunning Meetra & friends. All very impressive. Just nothing that put him above Vitiate.And if we are to use his planet drain, I can easily bring up Vitiate's Dark Council one-shotting as they're feats of similar nature in context lacking.
Meetra Surik defeated Nihilus(weakened and starved+her blackhole-ish nature),she fought Sion and defeated him in belief on Malachor V,in the Trayus Academy,a very potent nexus of the dark side,she defeated a plenty of Sith Marauders,Dark Jedi,all under the influence of a miasma of dark energies,she defeated Darth Traya. The Exile fought with strong adversaries,take into account they were on a dark side centre.
Traya even says she is greater than any other of her students,including Revan.
Say what you want,but the Jedi Exile was not a weakling,and she could learn a lightsaber form in a few moments of a lightsaber duel.
In the TOR:Revan,Meetra somehow manages to heal herself,and the reason she looked so bad,was because of Dromund Kaas' dark side presence that put her down.
I think you need to understand something:
FOL:
1. Vitiate had spent in exile on Dromund Kaas forging his True Sith Empire to attack the Republic,he learned ancient Sith powers,he developed his own powers.
2. Nihilus was just a mere man when the Mass Shadow Generator was activated and it cleansed all the life and the Force on Malachor V,except the Trayus Academy as we see in the game.
3. Vitiate needed a ritual,8000 Sith Lords,preparations to strip a planet off of Force.
Nihilus didn't spend his time learning Sith teachings,dark side powers,he gained his *Hunger* from the Mass Shadow Generator.
4. When you examine the Ritual of Nathema and the Incident of Malachor V,it is obvious that both manifested in different way to Vitiate and Nihilus.
The Ritual of Nathema was risky,but the Sith Emperor managed to control the outcome of the situation and made himself immortal. Basically that act was made still through the Force.
The Incident of Malachor V was horrifying,Nihilus managed to *tank* something that killed the very own fabric of Force on that planet,yet turning him into the Abberation Darth Nihilus-The Lord of Hunger.
It is amazing,that Nihilus succeeded in retaining his/its *consciousness*,at least basic.
P.S: Nihilus>Vitiate
His original ritual had him consume all the energy of the largest Dark Side Nexus ever made
http://i.imgur.com/1kxRNLZ.png
^Straight from The Old Republic Encyclopedia's "The Sith Emperor" entry. The header of the specific section was "The Taking".
Really not that hard to follow
Up until the time of Sidious, Vitiate had more raw power at his finger tips than anyone previously barring accolades I'm unaware of
He's Star Wars' answer to Kefka in terms of how he grew in power
Kefka nommed the Warring Triad
Vitiate led a ritual that forged the largest Dark Side nexus and proceeded to nom it all to the point he left behind a planet sized void in the Force.
This "he was on a nexus" crutch is really kind of silly in the face of that
How long it took doesn't actually matter once the power came to be under his disposal having absorbed it.
