I don't see how Plagueis out classes Satele...Disintegration with force lightning is impressive but that doesn't say much when Satele is so strong with tutaminus. Ripping armored torsos apart is impressive but lets not forget that DARTH MALGUS being helplessly blasted away was a part of her crumbling a mountain feat. There's not many TK feats that can live up to that. This would most likely end up being a battle of force power and Satele CAN stand up to Darth Plagueis in that arena.
Originally posted by Intrepid37👆 The episode made it abundantly clear that Dooku's TK was vastly beyond Savage's. As you said, Dooku effortlessly lifted said obelisks with his TK, while Savage barely managed to lift 2 of them--even when he gained an anger-boost via Dooku's incessant FL+trolling.
and lifting a dozen obelisks.
This is important because soon thereafter(in the same episode), a relatively calm Savage used his TK to push Anakin and Kenobi's starship off a ledge, with seeming ease...A very uber TK feat in its own right, imo.
ie. Dooku's TK>>>Savage's TK=starship-shoving.
Originally posted by Galan007
👆 The episode made it abundantly clear that Dooku's TK was vastly beyond Savage's. As you said, Dooku effortlessly lifted said obelisks with his TK, while Savage barely managed to lift 2 of them--even when he gained an anger-boost via Dooku's incessant FL+trolling.This is important because soon thereafter(in the same episode), a relatively calm Savage used his TK to push Anakin and Kenobi's starship off a ledge, with seeming ease...A very uber TK feat in its own right, imo.
ie. Dooku's TK>>>Savage's TK=starship-shoving.
Originally posted by Intrepid37I just rewatched the scene/episode, so I'm 100% sure. I can't find the whole clip on youtube, though, otherwise I'd provide a link.
You sure about that?
It plays out like this:
-Dooku easily lifts all the obelisks several feet upward(there are 12-14 of them.)
-Dooku tells Savage to lift them.
-A calm Savage struggles to get 2 obelisks a few inches off the ground.
-Dooku proceeds to annoy Savage with trolling+FL
-Savage gets pissed and lifts those same 2 obelisks a few feet off the ground, with difficulty.
/scene
Savage was in the process of learning about the ways of the Force during this time. His feat of lifting obelisks is ignorable.
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As far as this contest is concerned:
From Star Wars: The Old Republic: Fatal AllianceAx had no good answer to that, so she followed with something approaching obedience. The Grand Master had impressed with more than her telekinetic and telepathic skills. Her speed and decisiveness in combat were unbelievable—but she never once made a sound. Her face was calm, almost serene, as she slashed and hacked through the hexes. There was a tranquility about her, almost a blissfulness, that spoke of an intimacy with violence Ax had not expected.
To the Sith, violence was an art form. To Master Satele, it seemed like life itself.
That didn’t marry at all well with what Ax knew about the Jedi. Weren’t they emotionless, self-righteous hypocrites who fought only when it suited their interests? Didn’t they disdain passion and preach powerlessness to all who would listen and obey? For the first time, Ax saw that there could be strength in serenity, and steel beneath stillness.
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Originally posted by Intrepid37
Wrecking Jedi with TK and lifting a dozen obelisks.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDCan't agree with this logic. As I said, very soon(same episode) after his TK training session with Dooku, Savage shoved an entire starship off a ledge with seeming ease.
Savage was in the process of learning about the ways of the Force during this time. His feat of lifting obelisks is ignorable.
There is no reason to assume Savage's TK-prowess had increased much [if at all] in between the obelisk-lifting and starship-shoving feats. None. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that his force powa didn't greatly improve in the long run(it certainly did)--I am simply bringing attention to those two feats/scenes exclusively.
Dooku's TK>>>Savage's TK=starship-shoving. Confirmed.
Originally posted by Galan007
There is no reason to assume Savage's TK-prowess had increased much [if at all] in between the obelisk-lifting and starship-shoving feats. None.
Wtf? Yeah there is. As Legend said, Savage was still in training when that happened. Its highly probable that Savage continued his training after that.