Cyttorak runs the gauntlet

Originally posted by carver9
I disagree. Your first scan states something we already know. Of course he is in his dimension and of course he has control over the law of physics there but that doesn't mean he is any less powerful outside of it.

Also, your second scan doesn't have a thing to do with Cytorrak, it is in reference to his demon. I can't think of anything that states Cytorrak is weaker outside of his gem, especially when there is proof of him being unstoppable before getting into the gem. His power had dominion over earth until he was trapped inside of the gem.

Do not dream that you can face me here (emphasis on the "here"😉. You mean to tell me that this isn't attributed to Cyttorak being in his domain?

It does and i explained how.

He isn't unstopabble outside his domain, he was destroying some villages until he was imprisoned by Gomurr and Tar when they were inexperienced, no less.

Originally posted by Epicurus
I know that Fraction has a tendency to unwittingly and unnecessarily retcon certain plot elements of the comics of the characters he doesn't have the first clue about(case in point being the circumstances surrounding Bor's death), but I am fairly sure that the Vili and Ve portion was left untouched.

Heck, iirc, the original creation of the Odinforce was even referenced in a Fraction comic. I think Bran of or someone posted scans longtime back in an Odin thread. Let me dig it up.

Obviously it wasn't seeing as how Odin was the eldest, and they were still alive by the time he was an old man who had already sacrificed his eye for wisdom and was rocking the Odin Sword.

I mean, it would be cool if Odin was really weak when he faced Cul but not only does that not make any sense, we'd have to pick and choose what pieces of history fit.

Maybe, but that really doesn't change anything. Freya and Frigga were retconned into the same being but Balder is still Thor's brother. Thor's banishment was referenced but Bor still died at the beginning of time and so on.

One of Fraction's underlying themes is that Gods are stories with multiple histories that are all true and so on. In this particular history, I'm going to assume he was born with the Odin Force or gained it in some other fashion.