Anakin Skywalker vs Darth Maul

Originally posted by Psychotron
Yeah, but isn't it the philosophy of the Sith that the apprentice must kill the master and take his place?

The Rule of Two initiated by Darth Bane states that there can only be Two Sith at any given time. One to embody the power(Master), and one to crave it(Apprentice). When the apprentice gets powerful enough, they'll try to kill the master. If they succeed, then they've passed the test and are worthy of succeeding their master while choosing a new apprentice to repeat the cycle. If the Apprentice fails, then the Master just finds a new apprentice.

So while yes, the apprentice is destined to attempt to rise up and overthrow the master. But that doesn't mean it'll be successful. They're Sith after all. They're not just gonna sit back and let themselves be killed. They'll try everything to stay the Master.

Originally posted by Robtard
Maul's like Boba Fett, looks cool, sounds cool and popular cos of the 'bad boy' status, but really he just a chump who gets his ass kicked.

Lol the only person whose actually "kicked his ass" is Sidious.

Kenobi only defeated him in TPM through a fluke move, yes down to Maul's own cockiness and clumsiness too, but still a complete fluke.

Originally posted by KingD19
The Rule of Two initiated by Darth Bane states that there can only be Two Sith at any given time. One to embody the power(Master), and one to crave it(Apprentice). When the apprentice gets powerful enough, they'll try to kill the master. If they succeed, then they've passed the test and are worthy of succeeding their master while choosing a new apprentice to repeat the cycle. If the Apprentice fails, then the Master just finds a new apprentice.

So while yes, the apprentice is destined to attempt to rise up and overthrow the master. But that doesn't mean it'll be successful. They're Sith after all. They're not just gonna sit back and let themselves be killed. They'll try everything to stay the Master.

Sidious' line about Vader becoming more powerful than either him or Yoda implies that he wants Vader to succeed him.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Sidious' line about Vader becoming more powerful than either him or Yoda implies that he wants Vader to succeed him.

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Sidious's "fantasy" would have been to have Vader reach his full potential, grow much more powerful than Sidious himself, but then he obviously would have liked to have kept his loyalty somehow.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Yeah, but isn't it the philosophy of the Sith that the apprentice must kill the master and take his place?

Yes, but George Lucas introduced the completely pointless idea of Anakin being the 'strongest evar' which directly jeopardizes this concept and therefore requires more BS to retroactively explain why Vader doesn't just stomp on the Emperor's neck instead of being his ***** in the OT.

Moosie Poo turns me on when he talks star wars.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Moosie Poo turns me on when he talks star wars.

I see you successfully ignored the LotR debate for another week.

I win.

Negative.. I already won that buddy... You know it.. don't deny it.

Superior battle kills
superior durability
Leader in battle

and = better warrior

Sauran is a better politician and in the dark arts.

Stop denying the indisputable facts moosie poo

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Negative.. I already won that buddy... You know it.. don't deny it.

Superior battle kills
superior durability
Leader in battle

and = better warrior

Sauran is a better politician and in the dark arts.

Stop denying the indisputable facts moosie poo

You mean you just reasserted the same baseless things over and over?

Yeah, you're right about that.

Darth Maul wins.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Lol the only person whose actually "kicked his ass" is Sidious.

Kenobi only defeated him in TPM through a fluke move, yes down to Maul's own cockiness and clumsiness too, but still a complete fluke.

Nah, he's another Boba. Supposed to be a badass, then gets his ass worked by a blind man with a stick.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Darth Maul wins.

Based on?

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Yes, but George Lucas introduced the completely pointless idea of Anakin being the 'strongest evar' which directly jeopardizes this concept and therefore requires more BS to retroactively explain why Vader doesn't just stomp on the Emperor's neck instead of being his ***** in the OT.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
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Sidious's "fantasy" would have been to have Vader reach his full potential, grow much more powerful than Sidious himself, but then he obviously would have liked to have kept his loyalty somehow.

This wouldn't have happened if Lucas wasn't a hack.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Sidious' line about Vader becoming more powerful than either him or Yoda implies that he wants Vader to succeed him.

But then he got handicapped. He could never surpass Sidious after losing do msny midichlorians.

Originally posted by playa1258
Based on?

Originally posted by KingD19
But then he got handicapped. He could never surpass Sidious after losing do msny midichlorians.

I think the handicap was psychological. Yoda would have had less midichlorians than anyone else, but he's still one of the most powerful.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Phantom Menace and Revenge of the Sith.

He lost to a padawan and Anakin beat an opponent who is considered more powerful than Maul.

Anakin.

Originally posted by Psychotron
I think the handicap was psychological. Yoda would have had less midichlorians than anyone else, but he's still one of the most powerful.

It was stated him losing his limbs was why he could never reach his full potential. He couldn't even use certain powers like Force Lightning since he couldn't surge electricity through his cybernetics.

Originally posted by KingD19
It was stated him losing his limbs was why he could never reach his full potential. He couldn't even use certain powers like Force Lightning since he couldn't surge electricity through his cybernetics.

Didn't Sidious think in one of the novels that the reason Vader is so gimped is because of psychological issues?