Originally posted by psmith81992
That's now two people you've accused of being butthurt, and the fact that you claim that you love it sounds like obvious project. You need not be so transparent.
Projection, Beefy.
Janus accused multiple people of butthurt on the previous page; guess he's projecting, too? 😂
TPM hasn't aged very well from the outdated CGI, to the wooden performances of Mccgregor and Liam Neeson. Being twelve and seeing Maul fight the two Jedi, and the podracing must've been amazing for a younger version of myself but I saw it a while back and it hasn't aged well. Its redeemed if nothing more than for the nostalgic factor, how the Plagueis novel tied the loose ends, and for the sheer amount of shit I bought from the movie from the Battle droids, to the Pizza hut/Taco bell pog things, to posters of Darth Maul.
AOTC may be one of the worst movies I've ever seen, the dialogue for the "Romance" is as if a 13 year old wrote it. Dooku isn't too much of a villain, Hayden Christensen's acting is eye-bleedingly horrible and the CGI hasn't aged well either. I remember the Plinkett Review detailing how every scene transition was either:
A. Walking
B. Sitting down
C. Lightsaber fight
And lo and behold it was true, and as a result it was terribly difficult to sit through it and not laugh.
I have nothing but good things for ROTS though. It was much darker and while Anakin as a character was horribly sodomized by Lucas. Elements of his fall from grace and the tragic figure he was, shade through the absolute horror that is Lucas's writing. The Jedi temple march and seeing his face with Yellow eyes is powerful to me, while the problems with the CGI can be dismissed due to powerful acting from Mcdiarmid and Ewan. While its nothing compared to the OT, and there are tons of flaws from Hayden, to the CGI, to the laughable Vader NOOOOOOOOOO scene. Its a good movie with an incredible soundtrack. 7/10
But yes the prequels as a whole are garbage
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Projection, Beefy.Janus accused multiple people of butthurt on the previous page; guess he's projecting, too? 😂
****ing Iphones. I only looked at Janus' long posts, not his homoerotic argument with you. What I DID notice was you calling everyone butthurt and pretending to love it.
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
[list][b][*][list][b][*] 7. Yoda's Characterization is Bad.[/list]
Yoda is like that lovable uncle who plays pranks on people and yet always has a hidden gem of wisdom. He has experience and compassion and a strange taste in food. Even when he was severe, he was still a loving teacher, and probably the moral center of the OT in many ways.
Fast-backwards to the PT, and he's a totally different person. He is cranky, given to abrupt and final judgments, controls the Jedi with an iron clawed fist, and makes bad decisions constantly. This is a huge problem of consistency, but it's also a huge problem for OT fans; Yoda was our strange but lovable uncle figure. We expect him to be there, offering the ultimate advise and testing us without us truly knowing it. The idea that he would be instrumental in teaching Obi/Ani was exciting. I just wish we had gotten that same concept in final form.
Let's briefly go over Yoda's unaccountable changes or decisions:
- He dismisses the possibility of the Sith returning.
- He is blind to Anakin's different needs as a student. (Indeed, Mace and Yoda are uncaring at best of young Skywalker)
- He is quick to marshal the clones and go to war.
- He is unwilling to use any method to stop Dooku besides force.
- He stopped Sith lightning with his face, which he should have expected.
- He is often humorless, and stoic to the extreme.
- He doesn't come off as wise so much as old and stuck in his ways.If this were any other character, I'd say "Well, perhaps the OT is a showing of Yoda making amends for his earlier failures". Except that this doesn't follow; Yoda is a 900 year old Jedi Master, having studied the Force and the Jedi longer than anyone else, and he's almost comically unsuited to making any good decisions in the PT. I understand that he cannot retcon by virtue of being wise, but it's extremely difficult to point out any good advise he offered (that wasn't offered by a youngling and so blatantly obvious it makes me question Obi-Wan's analytical powers).
Here is where EU really shines: Dark Rendezvous reconciles what we've seen before with a playful, mischievious Yoda, who is kind and compassionate and wise. A mentor figure much needed in a chaotic time, this one is. Even more to the point, he's working with children, helping Scout and Whie against his former student, in a reunion that is both sad and compelling. It remains perhaps one of the best works of EU the series has ever seen, and the star of it all is a certain tiny green Jedi Master.
That doppleganger we got in the PT is an imposter.
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Update: Nearly hitting the character limit again. Thank you for feedback, except for those who are butt-hurt.
Also, OP is not mad. OP is bored and has a lot of down-time. It won't last. [/B]
thats the whole point of Yoda character in the PT, he's SUPPPOSEd to be vastly different and arrogant because thats what the Jedi were, thats why they were so easily defeated; they suffered from the same hubris that Yoda does, this is why in the OT he is a humble master... he's been humbled.... its a pretty easy arc to follow if you open your eyes
You did make a thread about me, I don't remember what was it tho.
Edit: Found it: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=630467