Originally posted by Robtard
I don't think I've ever claimed that holding Padme was "impressive", considering I just named a more impressive feat than that.
Im comparing them because as its shown this force hold/choke that people use only seems to work on the weak. Its never used on the anyone capable or strong. The force push was used and Thor resisted it. I think its a good comparison of the same being used on the weak in both versus, but it doesn't stop the strong.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Im comparing them because as its shown this force hold/choke that people use only seems to work on the weak. Its never used on the anyone capable or strong. The force push was used and Thor resisted it. I think its a good comparison of the same being used on the weak in both versus, but it doesn't stop the strong.
Force-hold was used on Obi Wan in Ep3; he's a very capable Jedi Master, I don't think any sensible person would call him a "weak" character.
See what I mean about making these claims that can be easily shot down?
Originally posted by Robtard
Force-hold was used on Obi Wan in Ep3; he's a very capable Jedi Master, I don't think any sensible person would call him a "weak" character.See what I mean about making these claims that can be easily shot down?
Yes for a brief second, but Obi does not have Thprs strength, flight or hammer. When Obi got pushed by Maul in Episode 1 into the hole, it pushed him right over, when Maliek hit Thor with it he resisted it, when Maleik was using its full power, Thor walked right through it.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Yes for a brief second, but Obi does not have Thprs strength, flight or hammer. When Obi got pushed by Maul in Episode 1 into the hole, it pushed him right over, when Maliek hit Thor with it he resisted it, when Maleik was using its full power, Thor walked right through it.
He doesn't physically, but with the Force, he's able to exert a lot of force, any capable Jedi is; certainly a master.
Ep1 Obi was a padawan, it is silly to try and use a padawan's feats when we're talking about a Jedi Master.
Originally posted by Robtard
He doesn't physically, but with the Force, he's able to exert a lot of force, any capable Jedi is; certainly a master.Ep1 Obi was a padawan, it is silly to try and use a padawan's feats when we're talking about a Jedi Master.
Anakin and Obi pushed each other the same way. A force push is a force push.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Anakin and Obi pushed each other the same way. A force push is a force push.
That's not true, the Force user dictates his/her level of Force power.
Do you really think padawan Obi has the same level of mastery as say Jedi Knight Anakin or Master Windu? No sensible person with even basic SW knowledge would make such a claim.
Originally posted by Robtard
That's not true, the Force user dictates his/her level of Force power.Do you really think padawan Obi has the same level of mastery as say Jedi Knight Anakin or Master Windu? No sensible person with even basic SW knowledge would make such a claim.
Im going by screen feats, when Anakin pushed Obiwan it was literally the exact same force push used on him by Maul.
A force push, choke, hold is not stopping Thor or hurting him.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Im going by screen feats, when Anakin pushed Obiwan it was literally the exact same force push used on him by Maul.A force push, choke, hold is not stopping Thor or hurting him.
This is not stopping Thor.
No, I'm afraid you're not. The Force-push Maul used on padawan Obi was less severe than the Force-push Anakin/Vader and Master Obi used on each other. In the latter, they literally flew back a much (3-4 times) greater and higher distance.
IMO, you should watch both scenes; you'll see.
Originally posted by RobtardThey also had more time to execute the force push than Maul's brief force push which served to catch Obi off guard which Anakin failed to do.
No, I'm afraid you're not. The Force-push Maul used on padawan Obi was less severe than the Force-push Anakin/Vader and Master Obi used on each other. In the latter, they literally flew back a much (3-4 times) greater and higher distance.IMO, you should watch both scenes; you'll see.
WTF, we're discussing Force user power levels. But all three of them executed the push in the same amount of time(time it takes to raise a hand), Obi happened to block it as a Master where he failed as a padawan.
Maybe watch the films, read some info and then debate? IMO, it's rude to not even have the basic knowledge of a franchise you're debating against.
Originally posted by Robtard
No, I'm afraid you're not. The Force-push Maul used on padawan Obi was less severe than the Force-push Anakin/Vader and Master Obi used on each other. In the latter, they literally flew back a much (3-4 times) greater and higher distance.IMO, you should watch both scenes; you'll see.
How is that going to hurt Thor? If they throw 10 feet or 300 it matters not, he landed in a steel trap from 30,000ft and hit the ground and got right back up.
Originally posted by RobtardMaul isn't Vader. Maul successfully used one whereas Darth crybaby failed to properly do so.
WTF, we're discussing Force user power levels. But all three of them executed the push in the same amount of time(time it takes to raise a hand), Obi happened to block it as a Master where he failed as a padawan.Maybe watch the films, read some info and then debate? IMO, it's rude to not even have the basic knowledge of a franchise you're debating against.
What you need to do is understand the films. You usually don't have any idea what you're discussing.
Originally posted by StealthRangerMaul would maul Vader who was an emotional basket case like Robbie.
No, Vader owns Maul. Meaning he can generate far more energy than himVader and Obi-Wan were simply equal in terms of force power, clearly
No, they weren't. Anakin was clearly more powerful yet unable to win this force push battle. The guy ended up being a huge disappointment.