Asgardians vs Jedi's

Started by quanchi11239 pages

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Ignoring evidence and responding with your bog standard handwaved "based on?" catchphrase is not debating anything

How so?

A much weaker Obi-Wan was disarmed, you mean. A prime Obi-Wan stalemated Anakin

Because of arrogance on Anakin's part. Not outskilling or outpowering him. Dumb****

You didn't post evidence that is why I asked what it is based on. You made a claim so prove it.

You can defeat someone who is more powerful by being more skilled or powerful enough to hurt them. You're simple.

Obi cut off a few limbs so he won. Stalemate my ass, dummy.

Maul beat Obi. Vader couldn't.

Anakin was stupid. His opponent pleaded with him not to do it. You can't be any more stupid than Anakin.

One of the most powerful force users needs all his concentration and many seconds to lift a stationary object not resisting him.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M_QcRPNfUuE

We also see these tk attacks aren't very fast and require their total focus on bigger objects.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ_eu5BxAsU

Horrible tactic and not very effective in the Star Wars universe.

Originally posted by quanchi112
snip argumentum ad nauseum snip ignore evidence and basic SW-verse facts blah blah blah

Depends on the circumstances. Though given Maul would never get close to Vader due to Vader having massively superior ranged force power to Maul, this is irrelevant

Are you defective? Do you not read where it's been said Anakin simply lost due to arrogance (which we don't factor into debates unless OP says otherwise) rather than Obi-Wan being more skilled or powerful

I meant in power they were equal you dong

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Depends on the circumstances. Though given Maul would never get close to Vader due to Vader having massively superior ranged force power to Maul, this is irrelevant

Are you defective? Do you not read where it's been said Anakin simply lost due to arrogance (which we don't factor into debates unless OP says otherwise) rather than Obi-Wan being more skilled or powerful

I meant in power they were equal you dong

Every Jedi or Sith he faced got close to him. Honestly, did you watch the films ?

Prior to being stupid he failed to do anything really to Obi for minutes. Awfully shitty guy who didn't live up to the hype.

They weren't equal in power at all hence Palpatine's high praise and interest in him. Obi himself acknowledges this. Watch the films.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Every Jedi or Sith he faced got close to him. Honestly, did you watch the films ?

You could simply say he wasn't using his TK to stop them. Duh

Funny, I could ask you that in return, but nah, you just scan through YouTube to find vids suitable for your lowballing and scan StarFleetJedi and CBR for Trekkie "counterarguments" towards Star Wars feats and parrot them here as if they mean shit

Prior to being stupid he failed to do anything really to Obi for minutes. Awfully shitty guy who didn't live up to the hype.

Because Obi-Wan is powerful enough to match him. Stop lowballing

They weren't equal in power at all hence Palpatine's high praise and interest in him. Obi himself acknowledges this. Watch the films.

Yes because hype>feats amirite?

Does that mean I can have solar system busting DBZ characters now?

Seriously, Palpatine was referring to his overall force potential and how Palptine could use said potential to his advantage. Of course alot of people throughout the film did since Episode One when Obi-Wan analysed his blood and midichlorian count and commented how it was super high. Context

You suck at debating

Originally posted by God Cloth Seiya
Yeah it warns them, it doesn't them were exactly the attack comes from. Thor and Loki are also much more faster so they should land the 1st blows.

He was having difficulty to.

No they didn't lol.

TK has never worked on powerful people like Thor, until they do you can't make that assumption.

O'rly? Then how did Obi Wan know right when and where Zam Wessell would be battacking from in Ep. 1?

No, he wasn't. It wasn't until Boba opened up with the Slave 1 cannons that Obi Wan had difficulty.

Lol, yeah, they did. "Nuh uh" is not a counter to this fact.

Has Thor ever had TK administered to him and he resisted? If so, when? For the last time, TK>>>>Brute strength.

If Thor throws its hammer is over for the Jedi, not a single one of them can survive a hammer blow. And they are not fast enough to dodge it, they also rarely start a fight off with TK, if their TK was this powerful then why didn't Obi stop Jango immediately.

Originally posted by God Cloth Seiya
If Thor throws its hammer is over for the Jedi, not a single one of them can survive a hammer blow. And they are not fast enough to dodge it, they also rarely start a fight off with TK, if their TK was this powerful then why didn't Obi stop Jango immediately.

Fail. They are indeed fast enough to dodge it AND will have precog to know where and when it will be at all times.

Thor throws the hammer, the Jedi dodge, close the gap and carve him up.

That's twice in one minute I pwned you. I am beginning to think I own you as much as I own TE.

LOL, they are not dodging something going 100x supersonic speeds. They have never shown to be that fast and have never dodged something that fast before.

You still haven't proved anything Rouge Jedi.

Odd/funny seeing a sock-account accusing another account of sockery.

I have information on him being a sock because someone told me.

Also who are you accusing me of being a sock of?

Originally posted by The Spleen
O'rly? Then how did Obi Wan know right when and where Zam Wessell would be battacking from in Ep. 1?

No, he wasn't. It wasn't until Boba opened up with the Slave 1 cannons that Obi Wan had difficulty.

Lol, yeah, they did. "Nuh uh" is not a counter to this fact.

Has Thor ever had TK administered to him and he resisted? If so, when? For the last time, TK>>>>Brute strength.

Keep running from the truth as I have already told you when he resisted TK.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
You could simply say he wasn't using his TK to stop them. Duh

Funny, I could ask you that in return, but nah, you just scan through YouTube to find vids suitable for your lowballing and scan StarFleetJedi and CBR for Trekkie "counterarguments" towards Star Wars feats and parrot them here as if they mean shit

Because Obi-Wan is powerful enough to match him. Stop lowballing

Yes because hype>feats amirite?

Does that mean I can have solar system busting DBZ characters now?

Seriously, Palpatine was referring to his overall force potential and how Palptine could use said potential to his advantage. Of course alot of people throughout the film did since Episode One when Obi-Wan analysed his blood and midichlorian count and commented how it was super high. Context

You suck at debating

You are arguing out of character and just making things up. He can't do so obviously. He loses fights too while blindly running in. This is Anakin and how he fights not some made up version that only exists in your mind. Without evidence you're just another fanboy.

Obi is formidable enough to prevent such a thing not as powerful as Anakin. Watch the movies.

Anakin has superior feats as well as a higher midachlorian count. Watch the movies, kiddo.

Higher count means more powerful. Anakin had a higher counter, superior feats, and higher praise from Palpatine. Yoda even tells Obi he isn't powerful enough to take on Palpatine.

Watch the films. Post evidence. Quit making things up and avoiding the canon evidence. Fanboys cry about low balling as to avoid the evidence and live in their own fantasy worlds.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Keep running from the truth as I have already told you when he resisted TK.
And I asked you to describe the incident in detail. Until you do so, you lose, as usual.

You haven't proved anything either.

Actually I have, Tell you what, pick a random feat I have "not proven" and I will satisfy your curiousity.

The fact the Jedi have not cut through anything as durable as the gods seems to.............................elude you.

And the fact that the "Gods" have never tanked a blow from a lightsaber.......yeah....

However they have taken worse.

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