Saesee Tiin vs. Darth Baras

Started by Intrepid376 pages

A Fact File outright confirms Tiin to be one of the most powerful Jedi in the Order, SWL.

He's on the Council so I'd be rather shocked if he wasn't.

I was correcting SWL, douchebag.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
A Fact File outright confirms Tiin to be one of the most powerful Jedi in the Order, SWL.

Show me this source. Why isn't he widely regarded as a powerful Force-user then? Why only one source?

A legitimately powerful Force-user wouldn't be a nobody to mortal Darth Sidious.

Nonetheless, Baras have much more solid credentials.

A legitimately powerful Force-user was a nobody to the vastly more powerful Darth Sidious. That's a feat in Sidious's favor, not against the three Jedi masters.

Saesee's flying practise also helped to hone his Force abilities. By the time he arrived at the Jedi Temple, he was already adept at channeling his Force connection. As he progressed in the Order, he was acknowledged as having one of the strongest Force abilities of all the Jedi.

Originally posted by A Terrible Rod
A legitimately powerful Force-user was a nobody to the vastly more powerful Darth Sidious. That's a feat in Sidious's favor, not against the three Jedi masters.

Unfortunately, Tinn isn't a legitimately powerful Force-user.

Intrepid37,

The statement doesn't confirms that Tinn is a powerful Force-user; what it implies is that Tinn is among the strongest Jedi of his time (or) is gifted in the use of one of the strongest Force abilities known to Jedi. However, he doesn't fits the bill of canonical standard of being powerful.

For example: Bastilla Shan was gifted in the use of BM (one of the strongest known Force abilities in the mythos). However, she isn't a powerful Force-user by virtue of being a master of this one talent.

Being one of the most powerful of his time doesn't make him legitimately powerful 🙄

Bastila was highly powerful.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Bastila was highly powerful.

Yes, she is powerful in canon.

However, she isn't powerful by virtue of being gifted in the use of one specific talent. She is a powerful on the whole.

Difference is that Bastila was powerful in BM whereas Tiin was generally powerful, not just in one area.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
Being one of the most powerful of his time doesn't make him legitimately powerful 🙄

You are incorrectly using the term of powerful here.

Among 10,000 individuals, where does Tinn ranks? Also, how many of PT era Jedi have been explicitly stated to be powerful in canon?

You might say that he is a member of the Jedi High Council but it is not mandatory for most powerful Jedi to become members of the Jedi High Council.

Analogy: Anakin Skywalker outgunned most members of the Jedi High Council but he did not qualify for Council membership.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
Difference is that Bastila was powerful in BM whereas Tiin was generally powerful, not just in one area.

Your assumption is baseless.

Bastilla Shan have been explicitly stated in canon as a powerful Jedi.

You have failed to produce matching credential for Tinn.

Mace implies that Tiin is more powerful than him when he tells Tiin that Tiin's telekinesis was more powerful while his own was more accurate.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
Mace implies that Tiin is more powerful than him when he tells Tiin that Tiin's telekinesis was more powerful while his own was more accurate.

Mace thinks highly of others in general.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Mace thinks highly of others in general.

Tiin threw his battle droid one kilometer longer than Mace.

Almost forgot that Mace isn't a powerful Jedi in canon though. My bad.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
Tiin threw his battle droid one kilometer longer than Mace.

Almost forgot that Mace isn't a powerful Jedi in canon though. My bad.


Mace is a powerful Jedi in canon, correct me if I am wrong. His performance against Sidious is more then enough evidence of his great power.

Also, how heavy was that droid?

It's a battle droid you see in the movies.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
It's a battle droid you see in the movies.

Which model?

The stupid ones.