Originally posted by Insane TitanOk, but Superman is going to prevent Surfer from such tactics, or at least buy Hulk some time until a thunderclap.
by the same tactic you use , team 2 using black holes , Surfers speed , intangibility. Both surfer and Thor using their energy draining powers or Thor's god blast.
I don't believe Surfer nor Thor can drain Hulk faster than he can gain energy. He went from Banner to world breaker in an instant. Also, it takes time to drain. Hulk isn't just going to sit there and allow it to happen. Neither is Superman.
superman is Hulks protector, without him surfer can win by the blackhole tactic.
Originally posted by h1a8So superman is going to protect hulk when he is a target for energy drain also? He's going to protect hulk while surfer quick drains him or thor roast him with a magic light speed hammer? Pairing thor with surfer is a nightmare for hulk and superman.
Ok, but Superman is going to prevent Surfer from such tactics, or at least buy Hulk some time until a thunderclap.I don't believe Surfer nor Thor can drain Hulk faster than he can gain energy. He went from Banner to world breaker in an instant. Also, it takes time to drain. Hulk isn't just going to sit there and allow it to happen. Neither is Superman.
superman is Hulks protector, without him surfer can win by the blackhole tactic.
Originally posted by JBL
So superman is going to protect hulk when he is a target for energy drain also? He's going to protect hulk while surfer quick drains him or thor roast him with a magic light speed hammer? Pairing thor with surfer is a nightmare for hulk and superman.
Roast this version of Hulk?
I HONESTLY cant see that happening. Energy drain isn't happening either since it was attempted (on WWH) and it was stated as being felt like energy was being pulled from an unlimited source of power. Their only hope in this battle would be bfring because a punch from this version of Hulk would be devastating to either one of them.
Originally posted by carver9Not on hulk. On superman.
Roast this version of Hulk?I HONESTLY cant see that happening. Energy drain isn't happening either since it was attempted (on WWH) and it was stated as being felt like energy was being pulled from an unlimited source of power. Their only hope in this battle would be bfring because a punch from this version of Hulk would be devastating to either one of them.
Originally posted by -Pr-Combine the power of Thor's hammer and Surfers power cosmic, there will be no need to drain superman. Draining him or blasting him with red solar radiation on a scale he has never seen before is just two of many options team two have at their disposal. Hulk is the threat here and would very quickly find himself fighting alone or floating in a black hole or the center of a red sun.
Draining Superman is as likely as draining Hulk, i.e. not very.
Originally posted by JBL
Combine the power of Thor's hammer and Surfers power cosmic, there will be no need to drain superman. Draining him or blasting him with red solar radiation on a scale he has never seen before is just two of many options team two have at their disposal. Hulk is the threat here and would very quickly find himself fighting alone or floating in a black hole or the center of a red sun.
I never said they weren't options, though might want to reign in the "never seen before" as that's pushing it a tad.
Even as DCNU Superman, he hasn't exactly been fighting street levellers as of late.
Originally posted by guy222For every 1 time superman has resisted being drained, there are 10 where he's been drained. For every 1 time he's resisted red sun radiation, he has fallen 10 times to it. His " going down to it " FAR more consistant. The majority will always win in any debate.
Won't work
Originally posted by -Pr-PIS is when he resists something that has a very long history of putting him down or being able to kill him. Their effects were put into place a long long time ago and still without change, applies today for the character superman.
That's not true. Or are you including PIS? Probably, I'm guessing.
Originally posted by -Pr-This applies to any character with a deadly weakness, but the subject here is superman. I know what plot induced stupidity is and how to seperate it from a characters showings. If we take a vote on whether or not kyrtonite, red sun radiation or being drained of solar energy would put him down or kill him, he would lose by feats, narration, bios from both fans and writers and characters both heros and foes.
I didn't know you were the sole authority on what was and was not PIS for Superman.Good to know.
But seriously, no. It goes the other way just as much, if not more.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklynI withdraw my statement about "fans". How about this scenario. Thor and surfer just try and punch it out with hulk and lose, thus team 1 wins. Better scenario to your liking?
Superman isn't getting drained quickly enough to remove him as a threat.I presume in JBL's scenario The Man of Steel is simply relaxing while Thor and Surfer attempt this tactic.