The "most powerful" in Star Wars

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Ever notice that people always focus on the "most powerful characters" instead of say, the most interesting, best developed, or most intelligent?

That says a lot about SW media.

There are, just not in the PT.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Some of his accolades occurred after the release of TOR.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
But the difference that separates him from the Mortis family is that:
-Vitiate can indeed die in the physical realm.
-Vitiate can get injured by mortals.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
The Son could casually disarm Revan, Vitiate had to actually fight against him. That's the difference. And that's a big difference.

Vitiate could actually eliminate Revan with just one of his powers but he underestimated Revan's might in the second encounter. The only time when Vitiate got serious, Revan found himself on the ground and heavily injured (his life spared by timely intervention of T3-M4). Vitiate could have defeated the trio if Revan, Meetra and Scourge as hinted in SWTOR(R) at one point in explicit fashion.

And these are?

Vitiate exists in both realms so it is not possible to eliminate him, only destroy his avatars in the physical realm.

I believe that Revan would do better then combined might of Anakin, Obi-Wan and Ahsoka (ignoring the Anakin's feat of temporarily subduing both The Son and The Daughter with aid of The Father or something).

Vitiate could actually eliminate Revan with just one of his powers but he underestimated Revan's might in the second encounter. The only time when Vitiate got serious, Revan found himself on the ground and heavily injured (his life spared by timely intervention of T3-M4). Vitiate could have defeated the trio if Revan, Meetra and Scourge as hinted in SWTOR(R) at one point in explicit fashion.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Star Wars: The Complete Visual Dictionary's re-release on September 28, 2012. I'm also looking into it if it's in The Ultimate Visual Guide.

Sometimes, authors don't even bother to pay attention to revelations in other sourcebooks before releasing their own works.

These are the dilemma with Star Wars. No official consensus on these matters.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Source?

Common sense.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
You really think Anakin/Kenobi<Revan?

It's worth noting that Luke placed Abeloth on an entirely different tier from Sidious.

Anyways I'd have to go with the Father or Abeloth on this one.

The Father is the most powerful ever.

The most powerful being in Star Wars history though is likely Lotek'k, The Terror from Beyond. Which was stated to be able to destroy the galaxy.

The Father. He has no reason to exaggerate the power of his children. And the Bedlam Spirits should be on the list, it's implied that Tilotny created the Universe and she's considered to be the least "creative" of the bedlam spirits.

OP was well written and free of bias. Props.

How can that stupid gremlin destroy the galaxy? I played that flashpoint, and if we're going superior characters, Soa is above him.

Are the Bedlam Spirits even canon? They seem like someone that should have been retconned decades ago.

Psmith, it says on the website, so meh. Soa is cool though.

Where does it say that? I'd like to see how they managed to reconcile that bullshit. It's a monster smaller than a rancor but it can terrorize the galaxy? Bullshit

I've always viewed Lo'tekk being some sort of Lovecraftian horror. As for the Bedlam Spirits, they're still around. I think the Visual Dictionary even has an article for them, calling them Omnipotent and what have you.

Whaaat? Its like, the size of a building. A big one.

It’s up to your team to close the Ancient Hypergate, opened by the deadly and malicious Dread Masters, and destroy a galactic goliath before it destroys the galaxy!

DE Palpatine was, without question, the most powerful practitioner of the dark side whom has ever graced the SW galaxy. That is all. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
DE Palpatine was, without question, the most powerful practitioner of the dark side whom has ever graced the SW galaxy. That is all.

Frankly, using 'The Ones' on any intelligible list is idiotic. They are quasi-abstract Force Gods, physical representations of the force on a universal level, nature made manifest, etc. etc. Of course their power is going to supersede all others(with the exception of 'TCO' empowered/amped by a Force Nexus.)

DE Palpatine, however, attained his gargantuan power all by his lonesome--with nothing but his own evil ambitions and hard work. In that regard, he is unquestionably beyond all other dark siders. That being said: if you think Son would steamroll through Palps simply because of his seat in the grand scheme of things(or w/e), I would certainly beg to differ. I've no problem with Son being viewed as more powerful, but the difference between them is marginal, imho.

Luke places the Ones on a whole nother tier above Sidious in terms of power. Son can shapeshift, teleport, deactivate lightsaber blades with a thought, block lightsaber blades with his bare hands casually, literally infect people with the dark side, and with the help of his sister he can grant and remove the force from entire species.

I also don't get your point about him achieving everything "on his own."

BTW... Hail HYDRA

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Luke places the Ones on a whole nother tier above Sidious in terms of power. Son can shapeshift, teleport, deactivate lightsaber blades with a thought, block lightsaber blades with his bare hands casually, literally infect people with the dark side, and with the help of his sister he can grant and remove the force from entire species.

Again, I've no problem with Son being more powerful. I just don't see the difference as *that* great... Especially if we're talking feats. /shrug

Originally posted by Emperordmb
I also don't get your point about him achieving everything "on his own."

Conversely, Son was just...born-into said power/rank. He didn't really have to work in order to become what he was.

Feel meh?

Originally posted by Emperordmb
BTW... Hail HYDRA

Originally posted by Galan007
Palpatine wasn't born an immortal, quasi-abstract embodiment of the dark side. He didn't live on arguably the most potent Force Nexus in existence. No, Palps was born a rather unremarkable human being. All the power he gleaned over the years can be credited solely to his own dark ambitions/hard work--to his personal devotion toward achieving ultimate power and ruling the galaxy.

Conversely, Son was just...born-into said power/rank. He didn't really have to work in order to become what he was.

Sidious may not have been born a God, but he was still born with a remarkable potential as remarked by Plagueis.

I respect Sidious's accomplishments, but I disagree with the notion that they are solely his accomplishments, and that he achieved them all on his own. Sidious was no doubt aided considerably by the last thousand years of Sith who were preparing for this day of triumph, and he would've no doubt not reached his level of power without Darth Plagueis to train him in the ways of the Dark Side.

Once again I am not trying to diminish Sidious's accomplishments, but it just irritates me when people don't give credit to the rest of the Banite Sith for the fruition of the Grand Plan.