The "most powerful" in Star Wars

Originally posted by Emperordmb
First of all, Son had to spend a million years fighting his Sister, "an immortal, quasi-abstract embodiment" of the light side, so I wouldn't quite say his life was easy.

Sidious may not have been born a God, but he was still born with a remarkable potential as remarked by Plagueis.

I respect Sidious's accomplishments, but I disagree with the notion that they are solely his accomplishments, and that he achieved them all on his own. Sidious was no doubt aided considerably by the last thousand years of Sith who were preparing for this day of triumph, and he would've no doubt not reached his level of power without Darth Plagueis to train him in the ways of the Dark Side.

Once again I am not trying to diminish Sidious's accomplishments, but it just irritates me when people don't give credit to the rest of the Banite Sith for the fruition of the Grand Plan.

Thus, I bit thee adieu. 🙂

Originally posted by Nephthys
Whaaat? Its like, the size of a building. A big one.

It’s up to your team to close the Ancient Hypergate, opened by the deadly and malicious Dread Masters, and destroy a galactic goliath before it destroys the galaxy!

Soa was bigger

You must be tripping.

http://cdn-www.swtor.com/sites/all/files/en/coruscant/main/gameUpdates/1-4/screenshot2.jpg

vs

I want to fight both of them now.

I have Soa's armor for my Jugg now. Its so badass.

Screenie plz? I want to see your juggs.

Sure:

http://oi58.tinypic.com/34h9wyt.jpg

http://oi58.tinypic.com/qmympe.jpg

Ragnos hat ftw!

Thank you.

👆

Looks pretty badass. Nice hat too.

Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, this ham-handed/self-serving logic of yours, wherein you seem to have a mental block in place which prevents you from distinguishing between The Ones and 'regular' Force users(ie. those who were not born as immortal/quasi-abstract Force Gods), is actually quite irritating/silly. If you cannot(or will not) grasp something so blatant/simple, then you'll never be able to grasp my point(s)...Which is now evident. No offense intended, but I simply refuse to partake in debates like these nowadays.

Thus, I bit thee adieu. 🙂

To be fair Galan, he has a point with regards to the other stuff he was saying. Palpatine was born with a great intellect and connection to the Force, but more importantly was the beneficiary of the Rule of Two's thousand years of knowledge and gathered resources.

Heh, you guys legitimately don't understand what I'm saying, it seems. Lets try this again...

Obviously Palpatine was privy to a plethora of dark side knowledge--as were numerous other Sith. However, Palpatine's personal drive/willingness/ambition to glean ultimate power and rule the galaxy with an iron fist(through any means necessary) is what ultimately made him the most powerful Sith in history. He didn't start out life with that level of power--he attained it through decadeS of hardcore training.

Conversely, Son was born an immortal, quasi-abstract. No matter what actions he took, he always embodied the dark side of the Force on a metaphysical level--he didn't have to put in any effort to attain that position. Again: Palpatine absolutely did.

That is the difference between them I speak of. I cannot possibly be more clear than that... You either get it or you don't at this point. /shrug

Originally posted by Nephthys
Theres this too I guess:

Not that I count it but whatevs.

"That's someone in marketing just trying to sell the book.

Drew"

Yep.

Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, this ham-handed/self-serving logic of yours, wherein you seem to have a mental block in place which prevents you from distinguishing between The Ones and 'regular' Force users(ie. those who were not born as immortal/quasi-abstract Force Gods), is actually quite irritating/silly. If you cannot(or will not) grasp something so blatant/simple, then you'll never be able to grasp my point(s)...Which is now evident. No offense intended, but I simply refuse to partake in debates like these nowadays.

Thus, I bit thee adieu. 🙂

Of course the supreme being in a given universe(and where SW is concerned, The Ones are the closest things to supreme beings we've yet seen) is going to be the most powerful entity in that universe. It doesn't take genius-level intellect to figure out that God>ALL--it simply goes without saying. That is why I find it silly to put them on a 'moast powafull' list. It's like... DUH! #HerpDerp

Not saying there is anything wrong with you listing them--just pointing out why I never take them into consideration when compiling a list. However, the fact that the only dark sider throughout the mythos whom is capable of edging out a win over DE Palps is the phucking physical embodiment of the dark side of the Force itself(on a universal level), speaks volumes concerning the gargantuan level of power at Palpatine's command. 🙂/👆

And I never disputed that Sidious was in fact the second most powerful darksider out there

Originally posted by Nephthys
Sure:

http://oi58.tinypic.com/34h9wyt.jpg

http://oi58.tinypic.com/qmympe.jpg

Ragnos hat ftw!

Sure as hell doesn't beat the Naga Sadow robe my Jugg's stylin in.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
And I never disputed that Sidious was in fact the second most powerful darksider out there

Originally posted by Galan007
Or more accurately: the most powerful dark sider excluding supreme beings. 🙂

Second most powerful darksider ever sounds more impressive to me than most powerful darksider excluding supreme beings.

But whatever floats your boat (or hijacked helicarrier).

Brakiss should be on here too.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
I see second most powerful overall as being a bit more accurate, as excluding the supreme beings doesn't consider their placement or the number of them above Sidious.

Second most powerful darksider ever sounds more impressive to me than most powerful darksider excluding supreme beings.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
But whatever floats your boat (or hijacked helicarrier).

I see what you did there.

mhmm

....Hail Hydra. 👆