Darth Vader VS Darth Krayt

Started by Nephthys3 pages

Q99 has consistently shown that's not the case. Why you keep ignoring that these were the bodyguards of the Emperor, I don't know. Oh wait its obviously just bias and trolling, never mind.

I was complimenting you on being capable of supporting your claims. You should be honored, trash. Though since you haven't actually shown this evidence maybe I spoke too soon.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Krayt pwns.

In terms of lightsabers he gave a good fight to post-RotS Kenobi, well well before his prime. He certainly has the edge in speed, from him blitzing those 4 Imperial Knights in a weakened condition. So I think Krayt holds the advantage in terms of bladework. In terms of the Force Vader has the TK edge but thats it and even then, I don't think Vader is gonna stomp him with it or anything. Krayt was shown tossing around Cade, who could throw starships, pwn Talon and tank a base exploding around him. Krayt holds the advantage in all other areas. His lightning can shatter stone and will pose a significant threat to Vaders armor. He has extremely potent telepathy, able to shake off Wyyrloks assault as well as announce his presence to every Sith in the galaxy. He also has very powerful Force Drain, able to affect Abeloth (and Luke iirc).

Lastly he has his ace in the hole, Dark Transfer which imo would severely **** Vader over. Vader is covered in injuries, which DK would burst and kill Skywalker swiftly with. And since Krayt holds the advantage in speed, he'll be capable of getting in close and putting his hands on Vader to pull it off. Vader has no means of defending himself fro this and it would allow Krayt to defeat him comfortably.

For this fight, a good comparison might be found in their fights against Celeste Morne. Of course, Krayt became much more powerful after that.

Also please is Vader vastly more powerful. Krayt was powerful enough that Luke thought he could serve as his counterpart on the Throne of Balance. Krayt is immensely powerful.

Krayt is not that ahead of Vader in terms of saber ability. Vader beat Celeste fairly easy in his early years as Palpatine's apprentice, while still very new to his suit. In comparison, Krayt didn't do better against the same opponent despite his years and experience as a sith. Certainly if Krayt was much faster than Vader on account of blitzing featless knights, his performance against Moorne should have be better than Vader's, which it wasn't.

The notion that Krayt pwns is silly. Krayt's power boost after his resurrection is unknown, as he didn't do anything much more impressive than before his resurrection. In fact, his power boost didn't even put him far ahead of Wyyrlok, as they were pretty much equals in their force duel. Actually, When Wyyrlok put Krayt in a trance, he could have even possibly killed Krayt had not been giving such a long speech.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Q99 has consistently shown that's not the case. Why you keep ignoring that these were the bodyguards of the Emperor, I don't know. Oh wait its obviously just bias and trolling, never mind.

I was complimenting you on being capable of supporting your claims. You should be honored, trash. Though since you haven't actually shown this evidence maybe I spoke too soon.


Blitzing three Sha'Gi's put Krayt ahead of Vader now? Lmao.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Krayt is not that ahead of Vader in terms of saber ability. Vader beat Celeste fairly easy in his early years as Palpatine's apprentice, while still very new to his suit. In comparison, Krayt didn't do better against the same opponent despite his years and experience as a sith. Certainly if Krayt was much faster than Vader on account of blitzing featless knights, his performance against Moorne should have be better than Vader's, which it wasn't.

The notion that Krayt pwns is silly. Krayt's power boost after his resurrection is unknown, as he didn't do anything much more impressive than before his resurrection. In fact, his power boost didn't even put him far ahead of Wyyrlok, as they were pretty much equals in their force duel. Actually, When Wyyrlok put Krayt in a trance, he could have even possibly killed Krayt had not been giving such a long speech.

Celeste Morne was tapping into Muur's power to fight Krayt (and was still losing) as he senses:

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She wasn't doing the same vs Vader and was in fact being actively distracted by Muur during her fight. Besides, wasn't Krayt weakening from the Vong growths at that time?

No, Wyyrlok couldn't. Krayt states clearly that it wasn't Wyyrloks trap, it was his:

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Its then revealed that Krayt has his lightsabers (where he didn't on the last page) and is sticking them through Wyyrlok's chest. So either Krayt was quick enough to pick up, activate and bury his lightsabers into Wyyrlok before Wyyrlok could twitch in response, or Krayt was actually fooling him with an illusion and killed him while Wyyrlok thought he had the upper hand.

Vader takes this with his superior strength durability and endurance while having comparable speed and much better TK and force feats in general.

If it is proof you seek, it is proof I shall deliliver.


He did not think about how long it had been since he had last used his lightsaber in combat. Nor did consider that he was older than Hett by at least a decade, or Hett's considerable skills with his own weapons, and that the Tusken was far more experienced at fighting in the desert. Ben knew that any such thoughts would probably only get him killed.

And again.

Ben blocked each blow, but he wasn't doing it with ease. Hett was far more experienced at fighting on the sand and in the desert heat.

Kenobi only kept up his reflexes, but his overall ability as a duelist had decreased significantly.

Nice Intrep.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
If it is proof you seek, it is proof I shall deliliver.

And again.

Kenobi only kept up his reflexes, but his overall ability as a duelist had decreased significantly.

That doesn't say how long it had actually been since Obi-Wan had used a lightsaber. It was still shortly after RotS.

The advantage of the desert is negligible.

Originally posted by Nephthys
That doesn't say how long it had actually been since Obi-Wan had used a lightsaber. It was still shortly after RotS.

The advantage of the desert is negligible.


How long it had been is irrelevant when it had an impact.

Nope, it clear says that Hett's advantage was considerable.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
How long it had been is irrelevant when it had an impact.

Nope, it clear says that Hett's advantage was considerable.

It doesn't say that it had an impact.

No it doesn't.

Did you read the quote? It clearly states both.

Did you even read the excerpts? Kenobi has thoughts about all of his disadvantages during the fight, one of them being his lack of lightsaber practice.

Take your head out of your ass. The text says that Hett was ''far'' more accustomed to fighting in the sand. Put a Lion in shallow water and a crocodile is going to **** it up since it has a considerable terrain advantage.

Hett lost to Aurra Sing for christs sake.

He did? 0-0 Wow...

Originally posted by Intrepid37
Did you even read the excerpts? Kenobi has thoughts about all of his disadvantages during the fight, one of them being his lack of lightsaber practice.

Take your head out of your ass. The text says that Hett was ''far'' more accustomed to fighting in the sand. Put a Lion in shallow water and a crocodile is going to **** it up since it has a considerable terrain advantage.

Hett lost to Aurra Sing for christs sake.

No, he just didn't think about how long it had been since he'd used a lightsaber. That doesn't indicate it had an impact on him, lol.

And Hett was far more accustomed, as it says. What it does not say is that Hett being far more accustomed gave him a considerable advantage. 😉

Wtf, Hett beat Sing you liar.

Uh, yes it does. Prior to that, Kenobi says it was ''fortunate'' that he had not allowed his reflexed to become dull, because if he had, it would have been another disadvantage.

My analogy works.

Take a Lion that hasn't been in combat for a long time and is past its prime in terms of age and pit it against a crocodile in shallow water where the croc has a considerable terrain advantage... it's going to get messy for the Lion.

Yes he did. I never lie.

Neph I think you are blatantly ignoring his posts. 0-o It clearly states that Obi Wan had lost some dueling skill and Hett had the advantage...

Originally posted by Intrepid37
Uh, yes it does. Prior to that, Kenobi says it was ''fortunate'' that he had not allowed his reflexed to become dull, because if he had, it would have been another disadvantage.

My analogy works.

Take a Lion that hasn't been in combat for a long time and is past its prime in terms of age and pit it against a crocodile in shallow water where the croc has a considerable terrain advantage... it's going to get messy for the Lion.

Yes he did. I never lie.

Still not seeing anything suggesting Kenobi not using a lightsaber for like one ****ing year had an impact on his dueling abilities.

Lmao, 'a long time'. Sure. The fact that Kenobi was older than Hett doesn't matter since as I've been saying, this is a year if that after RotS. Bane didn't freaking degenerate that fast after having the orbalisks ripped of him. How the hell could less than one year be in any way significant to Kenobi's dueling abilities?

In any case, you're ignoring one key point. Any loss of ability on Kenobi's part would be TEN TIMES what it was vs Hett in ANH. Thanks for playing. 😉

Still not seeing how the desert is that big of a deal. Your analogy is dumb, because being knee deep in water is waaaay more significant than just being on some sand and it being hot.

A lion in water is more significant than Kenobi fighting in an environment that ''far'' favors his opponent because Nephthys says so. Lmfao.

We can use the analogy with tigers instead of lions. Unlike lions, tigers enjoy water, but the crocodile is still more dangerous in it than the tiger is. Thus, it still has a considerable advantage.

He still lost to Sing.

The quote he gave specifically says that Obi Wan was not as skilled and it doesn't matter whether it was an hour or a decade when he lost skill it matters that he lost it. Also what suggests that it HADN'T been for more then one year?

Luke was still a baby iirc.