SWVF Canon Debate Thread

In here we will debate the actions the forum will now take due to the recent changes Disney has made towards Star Wars canon. If you are unfamiliar with the changes, please go here:
http://starwars.com/news/the-legendary-star-wars-expanded-universe-turns-a-new-page.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUm0Lo6DL-E

I'd like someone to first outline how these changes affect the status quo of our little dynamic here.

The old system of canon systems have obviously changed, and the new seem to be:

Canon: The 6 Movies, The Future Movies, The Clone Wars, Rebels, and all future published books from 4/25/2014.
Legends: The entire current Expanded Universe, which is every published book, game, guide, article, encyclopedia, etc that was released before 4/25/2014.
Non-Canon: Anything that doesn't fall under the other two categories, such as fan fiction.

The canon system is simple, anything that is released from now on that is in conflict with "Legends" automatically overwrites the older source in terms of canon, but does not necessary deem the older work "Non-Canon." For example, if a quote from a future book states "Jar-Jar Binks is the most powerful individual in galactic history," it automatically overwrites any source from "Legends" that claims otherwise, and Jar-Jar Binks would now be the undisputed champion of Star War debates.

Lol

People are still deluding themselves.

Explain your thoughts then, non-deluder.

The EU is non-canon.

Nope. The EU is under "Legends."

Now when discussing stuff, we can specify Legends or Non-legends.

Just like comics has Crisis and Pre-Crisis, and yadda yadda.

That's all.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Nope. The EU is under "Legends."

Yes, and "Legends" is about as canon as "Infinities"... In other words, it's not. It is its entirely own (non-canon) universe.

Originally posted by ares834
Yes, and "Legends" is about as canon as "Infinities"... In other words, it's not. It's is entirely own (non-canon) universe.

We now have two continuities. That's all.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Nope. The EU is under "Legends."

Legends is not canon:

http://collider.com/star-wars-movies-expanded-universe/

It's just a respectful name for fans of the old/current EU.

That's not an official source.

Ares, seriously, what do you think is going to happen?

People are just going to *not* use 30 years of material?

If so, you might be the one with your head in the sand. People can handle multiple continuities.

Originally posted by Q99
Ares, seriously, what do you think is going to happen?

People are just going to *not* use 30 years of material?

If so, you might be the one with your head in the sand. People can handle multiple continuities.

That's fine, we can always discuss Legends as a different continuity, as long as everyone accepts it's not official canon anymore. DarthAnt66 is clearly having a hard time accepting that.

And I don't blame him. We've all been fans reading comics, novels e.t.c for all these years. But frankly I was getting fed up of the G-Canon and C-Canon crap, with G-Canon taking precedence and consistently crapping all over C-Canon.

At least now every new piece of EU material will just be Canon, on an equal level to the movies and animations.

Originally posted by Q99
Ares, seriously, what do you think is going to happen?

People are just going to *not* use 30 years of material?

If so, you might be the one with your head in the sand. People can handle multiple continuities.

So, what you're saying is it's not canon to the new canon universe. Glad you see reason.

Originally posted by ares834
So, what you're saying is it's not canon to the new canon universe. Glad you see reason.

Sure. And similarly, if there's a big change to the past in the new universe, that won't be canon to the legends universe.

Dealing with multiple continuities is not some new thing, some of us have lots of experience with situations way more complex than this 🙂

Darth Power

That's fine, we can always discuss Legends as a different continuity, as long as everyone accepts it's not official canon anymore. DarthAnt66 is clearly having a hard time accepting that.

"No, you must accept it's not official canon," is also not the most accurate way of phrasing it.

It's being actively published and has it's own banner.

It's the old canon. Now we'll have a new canon too.

There's Legends canon, and new canon. The movies and TCW are canon to both. All other old stuff is only canon to Legends, all new movies and new novels are only canon to new EU.

Two canons.

Almost exactly how there's new trek canon and old trek canon.

DarthAnt66 is clearly having a hard time accepting that.

EU's now noncanon.

I think we should carry on as usual until they release episode seven.