In my opinion nothing's really changed. With the new Legends category, we'll simply look at canon the same way we always have, which is that unless it's specifically deemed N-Canon (infinities), it's canon unless contradicted by a "higher" source, in which case it gets overruled.
So, if you have a book written in 2006 that exists under the "Legends" category that says that Boba Fett is 5'8 with brown hair, and a new book is released that exists under the "Lucas canon" banner that says he's 5'10 with black hair, we go with him being 5'10 with black hair.
Seems rather simple, imo.
I think you're mostly right there- just that, literally, someone wants to frame a discussion to come from mainline (i.e. non-Legends) continuity only, then that would be e legitimate thing to want. Likewise, people could request Legends only discussions if they want to talk about the old EU. Some measure of thread tagging may be useful.
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
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Originally posted by Aes834
However, all book and comics from here on out will probably take place in the nuEU.
Not necessarily. It's been stated that authors still have full access to all the material from the Legends EU so it's quite possible we'll get new books, comics etc set in the Legends continuity.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
It's relatively simple. We can't get forum name changes without Raz around, but this area will not be an EU forum per se any more but a books, comics and games forum, encompassing both the new non-film canon material when it comes out and also all the existing stuff which is now under the 'Legends' label, alongside anything else that comes out under that label. The films section will be for the films simply because that's the medium used; it will no longer be a case of 'films count and nothing else does' as now officially there will be fully canon non-film stuff.The canon rule will simply be to bear in mind that Legends is not in continuity with the main line, which is in no way a quality judgement but just to make sure everyone is on the same page when talking who or what did x or y in any particular discussion.
Well said.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
As ever, what you count as your own personal canon or what you value is up to you and unaffected.
Again, well said. Thank you.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Well, fair enough, and possibly more of an issue with the PT novels. It's likely not something to be set in stone., I still doubt they'll ever be released as Legends, though.
Yeah, I agree. The OT novelisations, as a whole, are more reliable, with the only non-canon events I can think of being the final battle sequence.
CM, you are welcome.
Originally posted by Tzeentch
In my opinion nothing's really changed. With the new Legends category, we'll simply look at canon the same way we always have, which is that unless it's specifically deemed N-Canon (infinities), it's canon unless contradicted by a "higher" source, in which case it gets overruled.So, if you have a book written in 2006 that exists under the "Legends" category that says that Boba Fett is 5'8 with brown hair, and a new book is released that exists under the "Lucas canon" banner that says he's 5'10 with black hair, we go with him being 5'10 with black hair.
Seems rather simple, imo.
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The big issue here though is that theres going to be things that obviously and irrevocably contradict post-RotJ material. So that stuff is going to become non-canon pretty much immediately when the next film comes out.
Originally posted by Tzeentch
In my opinion nothing's really changed. With the new Legends category, we'll simply look at canon the same way we always have, which is that unless it's specifically deemed N-Canon (infinities), it's canon unless contradicted by a "higher" source, in which case it gets overruled.
Well technically all the Legends stuff will be like the old N-Canon(infinities) stuff. The only difference is Legends all takes place through one large continuity of it's own, whilst N-Canon was made up of several different continuities.
But the hierarchy thing is gone. The whole point of the new canon rules is to get rid of hierarchy and just have Canon or not Canon.
Of course naturally there will still be contradictions. The most likely ones are when Film novelizations contradict the scenes shown in the films. But I'm guessing it will still be the the movies that take priority there.
Originally posted by Intrepid37
Stuff like Revan are all in Legends right.
Still Canonical Important Expanded Universe Characters:
Darth Revan: His story in KotOR is now under Legends, but the character itself is not. It is stated on starwars.com him and the Son had conversations together, along with Darth Bane.
Darth Bane: He is still canon too, but like Revan, his novels are not. His appearance in Season 5 marks his official appearance in lore, and his back story is how he described it there, not from the books.
Darth Plagueis: An obvious one, he is mentioned in RotS, however his novel is no longer canon.
Wasn't it stated somewhere that material can be pulled from Legends and placed in the canon universe? I've been looking at the Legends group as more of a "canon purgatory", so to speak. Basically, everything in Legends is in limbo, until it either moves up (pulled into official universe and made canon) or down (made non-canon by contradicting material in the established universe). The Legends material is still there, just not in the "main" universe.