Thor versus Count Dooku

Originally posted by Robtard
So what I said, they're actually separate 👆

Clever, accuse me of not understanding what a "qualifier" is when I had to explain it to you in another thread, which is the source of your butt-hurt and why you're here crying "God! God! God!"

And more mimicking, guess me asking "Is English not your first language" struck a nerve last time.

"We are not gods! We're born, we live, we die, just as humans do." -Odin

That's all folks 🙂

No, I provided sources saying it couldn't be split into separate sentences and your response was practically identical to what I'm getting here, which is a bunch of irrelevant nonsense, repetition, and pictures.

You're evidently capable of nothing more. What do you mean, what you said? You gave two options without identifying the third (the one I used), which is an acceptable option. You said it wasn't when you corrected me and you're wrong a-fucking-gain.

No, it struck no nerve. You factually were the one who misunderstood and denied it, thinking that was good enough or "cleared" you. Why would that ever hit a nerve when I didn't make the mistake?

Anyway, this is grossly off-topic, which was bound to happen when you failed to be able to respond to me with evidence besides one quote, whereas I gave you handfuls of proof as to why Thor and the Asgardians are considered Gods, to which you meekly conceded (halfassed) and then went back on it.

It is what it is.

Robtard mad.

Originally posted by The Renegade
No, I provided sources saying it couldn't be split into separate sentences and your response was practically identical to what I'm getting here, which is a bunch of irrelevant nonsense, repetition, and pictures.

You're evidently capable of nothing more. What do you mean, what you said? You gave two options without identifying the third (the one I used), which is an acceptable option. You said it wasn't when you corrected me and you're wrong a-fucking-gain.

No, it struck no nerve. You factually were the one who misunderstood and denied it, thinking that was good enough or "cleared" you. Why would that ever hit a nerve when I didn't make the mistake?

Anyway, this is grossly off-topic, which was bound to happen when you failed to be able to respond to me with evidence besides one quote, whereas I gave you handfuls of proof as to why Thor and the Asgardians are considered Gods, to which you meekly conceded (halfassed) and then went back on it.

It is what it is.

Seems you're confusing yourself.

See, you're confused now, all that dancing has tripped you up.

"No you!".

Another "you conceded", didn't expect that.

"The first Thor was quite shiny and it was a very conscious, smart choice. When I came in, I wanted to get more of a sense of the Norse mythology: the Viking quality, the texture and weight of the history. He’s a superhero, but he’s been around for thousands of years. His dad is god!"

Alan Taylor, director of "Thor: The Dark World" (where the Odin quote is from) DIRECTLY referencing Odin as a "God" and also saying he wanted to head back towards the Norse Mythology, further confirming that they're Gods.

Man, know when you've been cast the fuck down and have lost, even if you don't like the dude who you lost to.

Alan Taylor using hyperbole to sell his film doesn't change your incorrect views. Did you actually think Taylor was literally saying Odin is god? Damn, you should have taken that nap I recommended.

"We are not gods! We're born, we live, we die, just as humans do." -Odin

I've provided fresh evidence.

You?

Repetition.

This is as done as it can get. I've squeezed all of the juice out of this orange.

No, no. That's not him trying to "sell his film." It's him explicitly stating that Odin is God/a God. It's pretty simple. Great edit, though. You can check out my other posts where separate directors and writers have said that they're Gods.

He is literally saying that. They're Gods and Odin stands as king. Plus, the added fact that he's going back to the old mythology, where Odin is also titled "God?" He's done his research. He gets it, Branagh gets it, the writers get it, film characters get it...

It's just you and a few others that share your intellectual capacity that DON'T get it.

Oh, also, going back to the "Norse mythology," where it's PRECISELY outlined that they're Gods? You've nothing to help your case. You're done in, Robtard.

"We are not gods! We're born, we live, we die, just as humans do." -Odin

"We're not human. We've killed, practiced evil, and been savage just like beasts." Human dude, being figurative like Odin was.

They're Gods because it's stated by various creators of BOTH films and because it follows Norse mythology in both films, even more in the second one, where they are Gods.

The creators have authority over the characters they write. They have the final say and various ones have said they're Gods, with none saying they aren't.

Sowwy, dawg.

"We are not gods! We're born, we live, we die, just as humans do."-Odin

They are aliens , just very advanced , I think they are even in Milky way (I mean in MCU not comics obviously ) and the nine realms they are talking about are actually solar systems.

Originally posted by Robtard

"We are not gods! We're born, we live, we die, just as humans do."-Odin

Originally posted by DrDeadpool
They are aliens , just very advanced , I think they are even in Milky way (I mean in MCU not comics obviously ) and the nine realms they are talking about are actually solar systems.

Yeah, they are aliens.

And they're Gods.

Originally posted by Robtard
"We are not gods! We're born, we live, we die, just as humans do." -Odin

Thor tells his friends on earth that he is no help to them in his mortal form? So if he was a mortal without his powers, what does that make him with his powers, immortal?

Originally posted by Robtard

"We are not gods! We're born, we live, we die, just as humans do."-Odin

Ill take A Hops' word over sorgo any day every day.

I wonder...if the other "alien" races in the mcu look at asgardians as just another race, or ancient "gods of earth". Like how the collector bowed upon seeing sif and volstagg. Tho he might have just been being formal. Im sure the nova corps don't recognize them as gods...why wouldn't they call for theor help when the events of guardians of the galaxy take place. The asgardians seem to just keep to the worlds of the nine realms. Great odin protector of all doesn't seem interested in any other world's troubles. Yea i think they are just advanced aliens. Just probably godlike even by other alien standars. In terms of sheer longevity alone i suppose. I guess the dark elevs are gods too. And the frost giants. And whoever else has been around as long as they have and can kill them in battle. Hell if the kree or the sakaar are shown to be on their level then we should call them gods too. Sorry got of topic btw lol.

I think the creators and directors recognize Asgardians as powerful Gods but at the same time, they do not want to alienate some of the general audience. Then again, Odin may have just been trying to humble Loki as he considers humans and others as "mortals" and beneath Asgardians. They might not necessarily be "Gods" but they are clearly far beyond "mortals".

Does this argument stem from Dooku trying to use force powers on Thor's mind? If so, this discussion is not necessary as there are already species in the Star Wars Universe who can resist Jedi mind tricks and even strong willed individuals. They aren't going to work on Asgardian's, much less one like Thor.

Although if you want more concrete evidence, Loki's interaction and mental take over of Eric Selvig makes it clear that the mind of a "God" is on a completely different level then a mere "mortal".

Originally posted by The Renegade
Yeah, they are aliens.

And they're Gods.

Dialogue in a film supersedes hyperbole given in an interview. Doesn't matter if the director said Odin was the Big G Dizzle. If Odin in the film itself said they're not, they're not.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I think the creators and directors recognize Asgardians as powerful Gods but at the same time, they do not want to alienate some of the general audience. Then again, Odin may have just been trying to humble Loki as he considers humans and others as "mortals" and beneath Asgardians. They might not necessarily be "Gods" but they are clearly far beyond "mortals".

Does this argument stem from Dooku trying to use force powers on Thor's mind? If so, this discussion is not necessary as there are already species in the Star Wars Universe who can resist Jedi mind tricks and even strong willed individuals. They aren't going to work on Asgardian's, much less one like Thor.

Although if you want more concrete evidence, Loki's interaction and mental take over of Eric Selvig makes it clear that the mind of a "God" is on a completely different level then a mere "mortal".

This^

To add, Thor said he could not be of help to his friends in him mortal form.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Dialogue in a film supersedes hyperbole given in an interview. Doesn't matter if the director said Odin was the Big G Dizzle. If Odin in the film itself said they're not, they're not.

No, it doesn't, especially when it isn't literal. He then goes on to differentiate, claim humans are mortals, and tell Foster that goats don't belong at the banquet table. He was alienating himself from Godhood because he's humble and wise, like humans sometimes do to separate themselves from the evil of humans.

He knows what Gods can commit and makes this clear, especially with someone as arrogant as Loki.

You've got them twisted. Odin's statement is the hyperbole. BOTH directors saying they're Gods, on more than one occasion (and literally so) triumphs the characters notions. The writers, creators, and directors have final say over their characters intentions and designations.

If the creators say they're Gods, especially with the other evidence, they are.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Although if you want more concrete evidence, Loki's interaction and mental take over of Eric Selvig makes it clear that the mind of a "God" is on a completely different level then a mere "mortal".

That mind-control was due to Loki's scepter and not his own abilities.

The sceptor is of Chitauri origins and is essentially an advanced and very powerful piece of alien weaponry/device.