Originally posted by Firefly218
MoS fight was just destruction porn. Avengers action actually had structure and purpose. Also Superman bringing his fight to a densely populated city was ****in stupid
Kal didn't bring it anywhere. The fight started in the city and simply stayed there. Superman fights in densely populated cities and causes lots of destruction all the time in the cartoons and comics.
Originally posted by NemeBro
No it didn't. 👆MoS action had better choreography, better CGI, it was faster-paced (While still being far more intricate mind you), it was better. And not by a small amount.
Originally posted by NemeBro
And now we see the other side of the "stupid mother****er" argument."Oh the Avengers fights sucked because they looked weaker than Superman", you're a loser. 👆
👆 for putting the fanboys on both sides in their place.
Originally posted by Lestov16
I find it odd when people complain about the collateral damage in this film when I distinctly remember in JLU, after Supes gave his World of Cardboard speech, him slamming Darkseid through numerous buildings.
And what about the Superman vs Shazam fight? Man they really tore through buildings.
And LOL as if no one died in the Avengers finale.
MOS defo had the better end fight Imho, but the best fight in both movies was Thor vs Hulk.
Originally posted by Firefly218
The last 20 minutes of Avengers blow MoS away. Just seeing all the characters coming together as a team, finally becoming the Avengers.MoS fight was just destruction porn. Avengers action actually had structure and purpose. Also Superman bringing his fight to a densely populated city was ****in stupid
Apologies for the late reply but...no, not really.
In terms of action, MoS was better paced and did better to portray super-powered beings going at it. We actually got to see super-speed used effectively in combat along with a end fight showing off just how powerful Supes could be.
Meanwhile Hulk was depowered and Thor got demoted while Captain America...really didn't do anything in the Avengers: or not nearly as much as he should considering his position.
So Winter Solider being the exception is still valid.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Apologies for the late reply but...no, not really.In terms of action, MoS was better paced and did better to portray super-powered beings going at it. We actually got to see super-speed used effectively in combat along with a end fight showing off just how powerful Supes could be.
Meanwhile Hulk was depowered and Thor got demoted while Captain America...really didn't do anything in the Avengers: or not nearly as much as he should considering his position.
So Winter Solider being the exception is still valid.
I'll admit the fight choreography and special effects were better in MoS battle. But I still maintain that the Avengers battle felt more epic and was much more enjoyable IMO at least. MoS bored me shitless
Yeah, Avengers was definitely the better and more entertaining overall film. I don't think I was bored once in the Avengers, and any plot holes were disbelief-suspendable. MOS I either found either boring or was facepalming every 5 seconds at the massive plot holes. And I agree that while the MOS battle definitely was more epic and took place on a grander scale, the battle in the Avengers was definitely more fun to watch.
The reason why the Avengers fight was probably better is because they were actually taking time out of the fight to save lives. Besides that one fighter pilot, I don't recall Supes trying to save anyone during the climax, and that bullshit with the Daily Planet writer under the rubble does not count. Due to this, it's just Supes punching/getting punched for 10 straight minutes, and it starts to get repetitive.
Like I said, MOS was definitely more epic, and if the context behind the action wasn't a bunch of bullshit plot holes and boring predictable crap, it probably would have ranked as #1 comic film ever. As it stands, I might youtube some of the MOS fight scenes from time to time, but no way in hell do I want to watch the whole movie again like I did with Avengers.
I think it was a massive mistake of the writers to make Supes take down the World Engine in the ocean rather than the one in Metropolis. Especially considering that bullshit with the Daily Planet chick.
Originally posted by NemeBro
No it didn't. 👆MoS action had better choreography, better CGI, it was faster-paced (While still being far more intricate mind you), it was better. And not by a small amount.
Originally posted by NemeBro
And now we see the other side of the "stupid mother****er" argument."Oh the Avengers fights sucked because they looked weaker than Superman", you're a loser. 👆
Originally posted by Lestov16
I find it odd when people complain about the collateral damage in this film when I distinctly remember in JLU, after Supes gave his World of Cardboard speech, him slamming Darkseid through numerous buildings.
Exactly!
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
And what about the Superman vs Shazam fight? Man they really tore through buildings.
To be fair, in that fight the buildings were empty. Lex was opening a new city or something when that took place
Originally posted by Firefly218That's fair enough, I can see why you'd enjoy it more considering the characters involved are far more enjoyable.
The MoS fight, quality wise, was better than the Avengers fight.I'm just saying the Avengers fight was much more fun while the MoS fight felt exhausting and pointless.