Darth Maul: Son of Dathomir

Started by Galan00728 pages

Someone else mentioned it earlier, but Grievous casually dodging close-range blaster fire impressed me quite a bit.

Tbh, his overall depiction in this one issue couldn't have been much better. Very glad to see him painted in this type of light again. 👆

no I pointed that out already

Originally posted by Galan007
Someone else mentioned it earlier, but Grievous casually dodging close-range blaster fire impressed me quite a bit.

The TOR Smuggler has done that too. 😉

Still impressive though. Also, I agree with Tempests assessment.

Reading the novel:
"Grievous. The most prolific slaughterer of Jedi since Durge."

Impressive considering Durge has thousands of years on him.

Also pretty interesting that Grievous has no fear. Hell yeah.

Panel of Grievous dodging blasterfire is incredibly badass. Glad he's not jobbing for once, physically or tactically, and finally being rid of the disgusting voice adopted post-Tartakovsky is a dream.

I very strongly suspect after reading this comic that Talzin is going to be revealed as Maul's biological mother.

I know Maul's mother has been in novels before, but TCW has never been afraid of retconning the EU, and that's really what this seems to be pointing to.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
Also interesting to note that Grievous was likely holding back. Dooku explicitly tells him NOT to kill Maul. Also interesting that Dooku thinks Grievous is more than capable of bringing him down.

Nah. He wouldn't be stupid enough to hold back against a Sith Lord as powerful as Maul. Plus it seems Grievous was disarmed of one Saber just as/before he kicks Maul.

Also Maul's put down multiple destroyer droids in one force wave there (makes Dooku being caught by those pirates seem even more stupid now). So it's pretty clear as soon as Maul uses the Force on Grievous, he would go down hard.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Nah. He wouldn't be stupid enough to hold back against a Sith Lord as powerful as Maul. Plus it seems Grievous was disarmed of one Saber just as/before he kicks Maul.

Also Maul's put down multiple destroyer droids in one force wave there (makes Dooku being caught by those pirates seem even more stupid now). So it's pretty clear as soon as Maul uses the Force on Grievous, he would go down hard.

True. Artistic error its exactly where Grievous is holding it.

Indeed it does. And I don't think so. Maul has no reason to not kill Grievous. + He'd likely dodge the TK if he's back to his Tartokovsky levels. excellent

Nah, Maul would tool Grievous with the Force. But that's okay, because Grievous doesn't have to be on par with Maul to be a threat. Again, he's a military commander first and Jedi killer a distant, distant second.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
Artistic error its exactly where Grievous is holding it.

Just means he disarmed him that same second. Can't just jump into artistic errors 😛 Plus he ordered his magnaguards to soften Maul up before he engaged him.

But yeah if we think about it Grievous has always been a threat to Jedi/Sith in pure Sabers. It's only when they use TK that the higher level Jedi tend to overpower him without too much difficulty.

The duel was disappointingly short. They locked blades and Grievous kicked him away.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Nah, Maul would tool Grievous with the Force. But that's okay, because Grievous doesn't have to be on par with Maul to be a threat. Again, he's a military commander first and Jedi killer a distant, distant second.

I dunno about distant second.

"He has never constructed a lightsaber. He has never bought one,
nor has he recovered one that was lost. Each and all, he has taken
from the dead hands of Jedi he has killed. Personally.
He has many, many such trophies; the four he carries with him
are his particular favorites. One belonged to the interminable
K'Kruhk, whom he had bested at Hypori; another to the
Viraanntesse Jedi Jmmaar, who'd fallen at Vandos; the other two
had been created by Puroth and Nystammall, whom Grievous had
slaughtered together on the flame-grass plains of Tovarskl so that
each would know the other's death, as well as their own;
these are murders he recalls with so much pleasure that
touching these souvenirs with his hands of armorplast and durasteel
brings him something resembling joy."

He has bodyguards designed for killing Jedi, and he is stated to be the most prolific Jedi hunter since Durge who has 2,000 years more experience killing Jedi than he does.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
and he is stated to be the most prolific Jedi hunter since Durge who has 2,000 years more experience killing Jedi than he does.
Sauce?

I only ask because I figured that title would go to Vader...

Originally posted by Galan007
Sauce?

I only ask because I figured that title would go to Vader...

ROTS novel, Vader didn't exist then.

I don't see Vader as being the most prolific Jedi killer. Not unless Order 66 was even more ineffective than I thought.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The TOR Smuggler has done that too.

Which is stupid and makes me question the speed of blaster bolts in that era or perhaps the accuracy of the shooter, instead of making me believe that a mere smuggler is just that badass (lol). In Grievous' case, he is a cyborg equipped with superhuman reflexes and speed, which makes it very much understandable.

Speaking of which, I'm not sure why most everyone one is so impressed with Grievous' performance against Maul. Landing a single kick on Maul--who had just escaped from a prison in which he was probably constantly tortured, perhaps somewhat starved, and thus a bit weakened by Sidious, and had just fought against droids and Grievous' personal body guards--isn't something to be overly surprised about, considering his consistent battering of Kenobi. TCW has been pretty good to the general with respect to combat. His only low showing was against gungans, which was somewhat circumstantial on account of GG underestimating them. The only jedi who has casually owned GG in a saber duel was Fisto, which isn't that bad considering Kit's reputation as a swordsman. Every other jedi he has faced he has given them hell, though in a few cases Grievous did have help (against Koth, for example). The only bad thing about Grievous in TCW is his comical personality (which actually fits his movie portrayal) and his incompetence as a leader; but other than that, his combat showings have been extremely impressive for the most part despite Filoni's statement that he's no match for a master level without circumstance on his side, which Filoni hardly ever depicted as being the case within the series. I've never been disappointed in TCW Grievous as far as combat is concerned. In fact, I've always been more disappointed with the fact that Kenobi has consistently been battered and floored by Grievous, as I've always had a problem with a non-force sensitive being able to match a powerful master, though in Grievous case, I guess it should be more acceptable considering his superhuman physicality, which is likely the reason it's hard to tag Grievous with the force in close combat.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
ROTS novel, Vader didn't exist then.
doh

I remember that now. For some reason I always associate Durge with comics, so I was thinking that statement was made somewhere in a comic book that I'd missed. Cheers. 👆

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Which is stupid and makes me question the speed of blaster bolts in that era or perhaps the accuracy of the shooter, instead of making me believe that a mere smuggler is just that badass (lol). In Grievous' case, he is a cyborg equipped with superhuman reflexes and speed, which makes it very much understandable.

Its possible for the Smuggler to also be a cyborg equipped with superhuman reflexes and speed, as well as several reflex-enhancing technologies and stim and adrenals.

Also its rather consistent with the Smugglers other feats of defeating Sith Lords and the like.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Its possible for the Smuggler to also be a cyborg equipped with superhuman reflexes and speed, as well as several reflex-enhancing technologies and stim and adrenals.

Also its rather consistent with the Smugglers other feats of defeating Sith Lords and the like.

Ah, I see. Well then, that's understandable.

The smuggler you're referring to, was he a cyborg, or just equipped with advanced technology as Pre Vizsla was?

Cyborg is a playable species for the Smuggler in TOR. And all the classes have access to reflex-enhancing cybernetic implants (like Canderous has). As well as combat stims and adrenals that boost fighting ability. Plus as I pointed out in another thread, depending on if you see equipment descriptions as canon, technology could be built into equipment to enhance strength and speed.

All of these are just possibilities. No concrete info on any of the classes really exists outside of the descriptions on the website and in Swtore.