Originally posted by BruceSkywalkerThey were impressive and easily were more formidable than Spock, Kirk, and Uhura. The problem was Khan who is vastly superior to pretty much everyone in combat.
i want the next star ttek film to involve a kick ass storyline .. i want the klingons to come in and put up a much better fight..
Originally posted by quanchi112
Into Darkness was amazing and shared certain parallels to Wrath of a Khan. To me it was the nest of both worlds and really worked for me. I do agree I want to see the third film go into an entirely different direction. I'd love to see an intergalactic war with the Klingons done. If they get this done right I believe 2016 would be the 50th anniversary of Star Trek.
Yeah I think the introduction of the Klingons in the last film is an indicator as to how they'll go. Testing the water to see how people would react to the new aesthetic. I personally thought they looked badass as **** even if their showing was a bit weak. I'd be happy with it being them. I do think the timeline limits what species from the established trek canon they can bring in. If they're going to mirror old films and bring in aspects of other non film ST media then I would also be happy with the whole V'Ger/Borg origin being explored. If they could make the Klingon look that imposing, here's what they could do with the Borg.
Originally posted by jaden101We were just introduced to one party of the Klingons. Once we meet some major players hopefully they will definitely play them up on screen. Imagining the possibilities with the new direction of the series is an enticing thought.
Yeah I think the introduction of the Klingons in the last film is an indicator as to how they'll go. Testing the water to see how people would react to the new aesthetic. I personally thought they looked badass as **** even if their showing was a bit weak. I'd be happy with it being them. I do think the timeline limits what species from the established trek canon they can bring in. If they're going to mirror old films and bring in aspects of other non film ST media then I would also be happy with the whole V'Ger/Borg origin being explored. If they could make the Klingon look that imposing, here's what they could do with the Borg.
I think now that they have the director we will see it released for the fiftieth anniversary.
The more success it has, the increasing likelihood of a new series that can go into deeper political intrigue rather than surface motivations and big action. I think there's an appetite for something that crosses the extended plots and characterizations from shows like DS9 with less hammy acting and better action.
Originally posted by quanchi112
They were impressive and easily were more formidable than Spock, Kirk, and Uhura. The problem was Khan who is vastly superior to pretty much everyone in combat.
not really, they weren't impressive at all which is why in part 3 i will get a klingon who will kill at the drop of a hat
Originally posted by BruceSkywalkerAgain, they were above Spock and Kirk for the most part and they were no names. Khan is on another level so don't ignore that aspect of the film. Klingons were portrayed just fine.
not really, they weren't impressive at all which is why in part 3 i will get a klingon who will kill at the drop of a hat
Originally posted by playa1258Spock didn't engage the Klingons hand to hand. Spock also lost the hand to hand fight despite raging out on Khan after he just survived a crash landing on earth. So you can't argue hand to hand when it wasn't hand to hand. Khan also shot Spock's gun away from him further proving armed he is well beyond them all.
Spock would have wrecked the Klingons. His battle against Khan proves that. At least in HTH.
Originally posted by jaden101
The more success it has, the increasing likelihood of a new series that can go into deeper political intrigue rather than surface motivations and big action. I think there's an appetite for something that crosses the extended plots and characterizations from shows like DS9 with less hammy acting and better action.
I'd like to see a new series, definitely. Just with the depth that a Star Trek show should have, like you said.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, they weren't since they had beaten the Enterprise crew and were unnamed Klingons to boot.
What Enterprise crew? There was 3 of them. That's hardly a crew. The Klingons were not very impressive in that movie.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, you ignored worldwide numbers. You tried to twist it into domestic only and want to ignore Shatner's opinion and the overall numbers. That is called twisting evidence. Studios don't ignore worldwide box office.🙂
And your ignoring inflation which is the much bigger factor. It's too difficult to account for inflation on a WW basis, since every country has a different rate of inflation, and they probably were not even released in the same number of countries.
So the best comparison is to take the biggest and most profitable market (domestic) and account for inflation within that market. Which is exactly what Robtard did. His figures are the best and most fair comparison. Yours are not fair at all.
But it's ok, I'm sure the maths of all this is too complicated for you to get.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERThis ship can be controlled by a minimal crew one if necessary.
What Enterprise crew? There was 3 of them. That's hardly a crew. The Klingons were not very impressive in that movie.And your ignoring inflation which is the much bigger factor. It's too difficult to account for inflation on a WW basis, since every country has a different rate of inflation, and they probably were not even released in the same number of countries.
So the best comparison is to take the biggest and most profitable market (domestic) and account for inflation within that market. Which is exactly what Robtard did. His figures are the best and most fair comparison. Yours are not fair at all.
But it's ok, I'm sure the maths of all this is too complicated for you to get.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uT8npGLg2g8
They were impressive since they easily had Spock and company subdued even amidst Khan took them out.
So yes the word crew applies since in this same universe the word can even apply to one person. I cite the movie whereas you just rage on.
You then insult my intelligence and then say you're too stupid to account for inflation country by country. Then have the audacity to say ignore the overall big picture and just focus on domestic numbers. Sorry, can't do that. I cited the original actor who portrayed Kirk to back me.
You have an inability to comprehend (you admitted it) and want to ignore the totality of the numbers which is the truest indicator. Evidence and the original Kirk backing me.
🙂
Originally posted by quanchi112
This ship can be controlled by a minimal crew one if necessary.http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uT8npGLg2g8
They were impressive since they easily had Spock and company subdued even amidst Khan took them out.
So yes the word crew applies since in this same universe the word can even apply to one person. I cite the movie whereas you just rage on.
It took dozens of Klingons to show dominance over 3 people with massively inferior firepower. Great feat 👆
Originally posted by quanchi112
You then insult my intelligence and then say you're too stupid to account for inflation country by country. Then have the audacity to say ignore the overall big picture and just focus on domestic numbers. Sorry, can't do that. I cited the original actor who portrayed Kirk to back me.You have an inability to comprehend (you admitted it) and want to ignore the totality of the numbers which is the truest indicator. Evidence and the original Kirk backing me.
🙂
Stop being a hypocrite. Your the one ignoring the overall picture by ignoring inflation. By comparing numbers made in 1979 to numbers made in 2009 (30 damn years later) your showing yourself to being either deliberately dishonest or an ignorant fanboy, or just plain stupid.
If I insult your intelligence it's because the words you state deserve to be for their blatant stupidity.
Comparing domestic figures adjusted for inflation, is the fairest possible way to compare the 2. Deal with it.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERIt didn't take dozens since you're ignoring the fact Khan was dominating them and they were diverted by him. Yet despite all this they still managed to easily capture the Enterprise crew. 🙂
It took dozens of Klingons to show dominance over 3 people with massively inferior firepower. Great feat 👆Stop being a hypocrite. Your the one ignoring the overall picture by ignoring inflation. By comparing numbers made in 1979 to numbers made in 2009 (30 damn years later) your showing yourself to being either deliberately dishonest or an ignorant fanboy, or just plain stupid.
If I insult your intelligence it's because the words you state deserve to be for their blatant stupidity.
Comparing domestic figures adjusted for inflation, is the fairest possible way to compare the 2. Deal with it.
I quoted a website that did so. I didn't put the numbers on the site. Calm down. I also quoted and cited William Shatner. 🙂
Overall the NuTreks are vastly more profitable. Look at the numbers from the website. Overall.
The site, Shatner, and myself agree. Stew in your own ignorance.