Nomi Sunrider Respect Thread

Originally posted by Selenial
However, if you feel he is not in his rightful place, do, please, comb through the 1040 posts on the subject, every argument placed for him, and try to change our minds.

Because unlike here, we debated and mulled over every character with a hell of a lot of posts, we don't just post our lists and walk off to get a coffee.

I have prepared a response for "Sith Emperor versus Darth Caedus" analysis by him. However, I expect dismissal without valid reasoning. He have a habit of discrediting and overlooking some facts concerning Sith Emperor but he pretends to pay attention.

Darth Caedus is not as strong as Sith Emperor, period.

Also, Vader above Revan? Seriously?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Darth Caedus is not as strong as Sith Emperor, period.

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The fact that this is an argument makes me laugh.

Originally posted by Sinious
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The fact that this is an argument makes me laugh.

The fact you have no rebuttal for him being able to fight Caedus on neutral ground without prep or a nexus is even funnier.

Oh by the way, look at reactions of member (Aubere) in SWTOR official forum as well, priceless.

Originally posted by carthage
The fact you have no rebuttal for him being able to fight Caedus on neutral ground without prep or a nexus is even funnier.

The Emperor is a nexus himself you moron. You don't get to be on neutral ground with him. Its not as if he is weak off nexus. The fact that you try to use his feat of turning the Dark Temple into a nexus against him is even more funnier.

Originally posted by Sinious
The Emperor is a nexus himself you moron. You don't get to be on neutral ground with him. Its not as if he is weak off nexus. The fact that you try to use his feat of turning the Dark Temple into a nexus against him is even more funnier.

Then logically he'd empower Caedus even more which would enable him to kill him faster. Again, much like when you failed to come up with feats for Marr and Jadus. What are off nexus feats for Vitiate that prove he can keep up with Caedus or defeat him on neutral ground?

Also, look at the trolling going on in one of my threads in SWTOR. Full attempt is being made to derail a discussion that was supposed to be meaningful and I am not even responsible for that debacle. 🙄

Originally posted by carthage
Then logically he'd empower Caedus even more which would enable him to kill him faster. Again, much like when you failed to come up with feats for Marr and Jadus. What are off nexus feats for Vitiate that prove he can keep up with Caedus or defeat him on neutral ground?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Easily dismissing a Jedi Strike Team of powerful Jedi, you buffoon.

In orbit of Dromuund Kaas, a darkside nexus. Which makes your claim dubious.

Originally posted by carthage
Then logically he'd empower Caedus even more which would enable him to kill him faster. Again, much like when you failed to come up with feats for Marr and Jadus. What are off nexus feats for Vitiate that prove he can keep up with Caedus or defeat him on neutral ground?

Lack of info doesn't make a character weak. Most of the characters' stories in SWEU is incomplete or not provided with detailed information. With your logic, 'Star Wars: Literature & Expanded Universe' section is useless. Vitiate has performed A LOT of incredibly impressive feats in Dromund Kaas and Natemha. We don't even know what he did from the age 100 to 1100. How does that make him weak?
Same with Marr and Jadus.

Originally posted by 501stclone88
Marr and Jadus are featless though.

Jadus has achievements that put him above most.

Originally posted by Sinious
Lack of info doesn't make a character weak. Most of the characters' stories in SWEU is incomplete or not provided with detailed information. With your logic, 'Star Wars: Literature & Expanded Universe' section is useless. Vitiate has performed A LOT of incredibly impressive feats in Dromund Kaas and Natemha. We don't even know what he did from the age 100 to 1100. How does that make him weak?
Same with Marr and Jadus.

Lack of info means they lose by default unless expounded upon with feats. Especially in a combat scenario in which you've failed to provide an argument based on what he's accomplished. Vitiate has no combat showings off nexus that'd prove he can hold his own against similarly powerful force users. His sole showing even occurred in orbit of a nexus, making it doubtful he could replicate it elsewhere. But to you all its "Trolling" to bring his character down to a scenario when he'd have to rely on his own ability.

Originally posted by carthage
In orbit of Dromuund Kaas, a darkside nexus. Which makes your claim dubious.

If you ever go up to Mir Space Station, you won't experience Earth like conditions over there.

Common sense, which you really lack.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Space station is miles above atmosphere of Dromund Kaas. It is basically in the space.

If you ever go up to Mir Space Station, you won't experience Earth like conditions over there.

Common sense, which you really lack.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Space station is miles above atmosphere of Dromund Kaas. It is basically in the space.

If you ever go up to Mir Space Station, you won't experience Earth like conditions over there.

Common sense, which you really lack.

He has no other showings that showcase his abilities without prep or a nexus. Why this is hard for you to accept is beyond me. He would only be top ten material if he could demonstrate his abilities without trinkets, a nexus, or an external darkside boost. This is why the SWTOR posters laugh at your incessant attempts to showcase Vitiate's "power" with the hordes of quotes you mined, all to compensate for his inferior feats to other powerful Sith (Palpatine, Plagueis, Caedus). All of his higher end feats require immense prep, a nexus, and peculiar circumstances for his benefit.

Without aid he is laughably weak.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
That's probably not a fair comparison.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

Common sense, which you really lack.

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Originally posted by carthage

Without aid he is laughably weak.

You're laughably stupid. With your logic, Qui-gon Jinn could defeat Vitiate off nexus.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Why not?

Originally posted by carthage
He has no other showings that showcase his abilities without prep or a nexus. Why this is hard for you to accept is beyond me.

We don't need hundreds of feats to determine whether Emperor Vitiate is good in a neutral setting is, one feat verified this.

Originally posted by carthage
He would only be top ten material if he could demonstrate his abilities without trinkets, a nexus, or an external darkside boost.

In addition, Emperor Vitiate transformed Dromund Kaas in a to place strong in the dark side by his dark side practices. However, whole planet is not a nexus, some regions in it are. How many times I have to tell you this?

Also, a Force-user does not automatically benefits from being on a setting that benefits him. He may feel more energetic but this is it. Some examples:-

- Darth Malgus performed really well inside Jedi Temple on Coruscant. And Jedi Temple represents one of the strongest nexuses of light side in the galaxy.

- Count Dooku couldn't defeat Jed Master Yoda on a planet strong in the dark side.

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Get it or not? Endless trolling will only tarnish your credibility, it won't win you arguments.

Originally posted by carthage
This is why the SWTOR posters laugh at your incessant attempts to showcase Vitiate's "power" with the hordes of quotes you mined, all to compensate for his inferior feats to other powerful Sith (Palpatine, Plagueis, Caedus). All of his higher end feats require immense prep, a nexus, and peculiar circumstances for his benefit.

Without aid he is laughably weak.

Originally posted by Sinious
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You're laughably stupid. With your logic, Qui-gon Jinn could defeat Vitiate off nexus.

I'm not the one defending characters religiously when they have zero showings without beneficial circumstances. My logic is simply based on feats, that's it. We have no idea how powerful he is when he's off a world bereft of factors that affect his overall power. I fail to understand what's "Stupid" for calling Legend out about this. All of Vitiate's tens of millions of quotes don't prove he's powerful off a nexus.