Nomi Sunrider Respect Thread

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
No, it is trolling when you overlook valid points and continue to repeat same BS again and again and again until the OP decides that you are no longer with his/her time. I have never witnessed arguments as bad as yours in my history of debates concerning Star Wars.

And your insistence that Vitiate is a powerful Sith in comparison to others who have achieved remarkable feats off nexus is not supported. It's not trolling to call him out on that fact, the fact that you don't like me calling you out for your fanboyism isn't trolling. Grow up.

Originally posted by Sinious
FFS Carthage

You give me a single quote that proves Vitiate is only strong in nexus and isn't shit without it. Until you do, everything you say is pointless.

I never denied he was a powerful force user, only that he is inferior to the likes of Plagueis, Caedus, and Palpatine. Your arguments from ignorance are tiring, the fact others have accomplished what Vitiate requires prep to do should be quite telling that he is inferior. But then again this is literally the only place that asking for feats is trolling. Bad arguments, ok....for as long as I've been posting, I've only see SWlegend get repeatedly owned on the SWTOR boards in Palpatine vs. Vitiate threads due to his over-reliance on quotes as opposed to tangible feats.

Originally posted by carthage
I never denied he was a powerful force user, only that he is inferior to the likes of Plagueis, Caedus, and Palpatine. Your arguments from ignorance are tiring, the fact others have accomplished what Vitiate requires prep to do should be quite telling that he is inferior. But then again this is literally the only place that asking for feats is trolling. Bad arguments, ok....for as long as I've been posting, I've only see SWlegend get repeatedly owned on the SWTOR boards in Palpatine vs. Vitiate threads due to his over-reliance on quotes as opposed to tangible feats.

Hello Selenial. I can reply directly to your response to me in the Swtor forums if that's ok with you:

Originally posted by Selenial
Also, can you link that Neph guy to this post....

Surik has severed people from the force on purpose, she severed Darth Traya from the force. We know this because Jedi master Zez Kai-Ell said that the only way to break a force bond was to turn away or be cut from the force, it is why the Jedi attempted to sever Surik from the force. Now, Surik is described as severing the Force bond and the Hand of Traya at the same time, which means she had to have severed Surik from the force (given that her own force energies remained)

Which explains why she could barely levitate three lightsabers, she only had the powers of Malachor to draw on, not her own.

Isn't this mere supposition on your part? It's a much simpler explanation that the Force Bond simply continued to exist up until Traya's death, which was what severed it. Traya had obviously lied about the Force Bond being fatal in the case of her death considering every Jedi Master reacts to that info with "wtf that sounds dumb".

And Zez Kai-Ell specifically says that he's not particularly knowledgeable about Force Bonds and that he doesn't know how exactly to sever one. HOWever, he also says that to break one "your feelings would have to change, or one of you would have to die". In the Exile's case both apply to her bond with Kreia. If it is stated that Surik severed the Force Bond by cutting off Traya's hand, then that the much more simple explanation is that that action met the first requirement and was such an act of violence against the nature of a Force Bond that it was severed.

Also, "barely levitating three lightsabers?" Even levitating and fighting with one lightsaber is a extremely masterful display of telekinetic control. Fighting with 3 at once is an astounding feat of mental coordination. Particularly since she'd just had her freaking hand cut off. 😆

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
It doesn't have to be. Plenty of characters have senesced nexi from orbit. If Vitiate is as powerful as you say, he should be able to tap into it. The fact that he can posse people across the galaxy, still in said space station, doesn't make me doubt that he could tap into the nexus miles below him.

And plenty of people have sensed things across the galaxy, that doesn't mean anything. Sensing something isn't the same as tapping into a thing. If a nexus empowers one by the area being heavily powerful in the darkside, then it only makes sense that if you're outside the area, you cannot get boosted by it.

Originally posted by carthage
I never denied he was a powerful force user, only that he is inferior to the likes of Plagueis, Caedus, and Palpatine. Your arguments from ignorance are tiring, the fact others have accomplished what Vitiate requires prep to do should be quite telling that he is inferior.

You're such a moron. Give me a quote that proves Caedus > Vitiate off nexus then.

You keep saying he requires prep yet you don't know this. He uses prep or nexus for his advantage because he is smart. If he was put in a situation where he can't manipulate events in/before a combat, we don't know how he'll perform. You just like to throw out random stuff and most of the evidence supports that Vitiate is more powerful than at least Caedus off/on nexus with/without prep and there is nothing you can do to prove otherwise.

Also lol @ others have accomplished what Vitiate has done with prep.

Are you saying Caedus, Plagueis or Palpatine are capable of dominating and consuming 8000 sith lords at the same time without prep?

Do you think they could solo an entire Dark Council?

I too am tired of your bullshit. Improve yourself. Try to look at things from a less feeble perspective at least.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Hello Selenial. I can reply directly to your response to me in the Swtor forums if that's ok with you:

Isn't this mere supposition on your part? It's a much simpler explanation that the Force Bond simply continued to exist up until Traya's death, which was what severed it. Traya had obviously lied about the Force Bond being fatal in the case of her death considering every Jedi Master reacts to that info with "wtf that sounds dumb".

And Zez Kai-Ell specifically says that he's not particularly knowledgeable about Force Bonds and that he doesn't know how exactly to sever one. HOWever, he also says that to break one "your feelings would have to change, or one of you would have to die". In the Exile's case both apply to her bond with Kreia. If it is stated that Surik severed the Force Bond by cutting off Traya's hand, then that the much more simple explanation is that that action met the first requirement and was such an act of violence against the nature of a Force Bond that it was severed.

Also, "barely levitating three lightsabers?" Even levitating and fighting with one lightsaber is a extremely masterful display of telekinetic control. Fighting with 3 at once is an astounding feat of mental coordination. Particularly since she'd just had her freaking hand cut off. 😆

KoTOR-CG reveals that Traya used her 'vast telekinetic powers' to wield 3 lightsabers for dueling purposes without use of hands.

Originally posted by Nephthys

And plenty of people have sensed things across the galaxy, that doesn't mean anything. Sensing something isn't the same as tapping into a thing. If a nexus empowers one by the area being heavily powerful in the darkside, then it only makes sense that if you're outside the area, you cannot get boosted by it.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
👆

KoTOR-CG reveals that Traya used her 'vast telekinetic powers' to wield 3 lightsabers for dueling purposes without use of hands.

Well that seems like confirmation to me that Traya's connection to the Force was still intact, don't you think? TBH I'm not even sure it would be possible for her to draw on Malachor's power if she was severed from the Force. We saw in her betrayal flashback that after Nihilus severed her she couldn't do more that wobble a single lightsaber.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Well that seems like confirmation to me that Traya's connection to the Force was still intact, don't you think? TBH I'm not even sure it would be possible for her to draw on Malachor's power if she was severed from the Force. We saw in her betrayal flashback that after Nihilus severed her she couldn't do more that wobble a single lightsaber.

And then some members over there (in official SWTOR forum) accuse of me overlooking some theories.

Heck, I don't mind giving importance to theories if they are well-reasoned and have some iota of support.

Join me in that forum and help me restore balance to the galaxy. I may re-subscribe to that forum today.

I'm too poor to join, sorry.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Not everyone has galaxy spanning sensing and are still able to feel nexi when near them, but more to the point, Vitiate isn't systems away, he's in orbit above Kaas. Nothing's stopping him from tapping into it.

He isn't actually in the nexus, so he can't tap into it. Simple.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I'm too poor to join, sorry.

Originally posted by Nephthys
He isn't actually in the nexus, so he can't tap into it. Simple.

I don't think she would either, the Exile was only able to draw on the Force through Kreia and her companions, "But it doesn't feel like it did ....it feels like it is coming from across a great distance." While Traya had her powers stripped, she wasn't completely cutoff from the Force as Surik was. Considering that Kreia needs the Force to see, let alone levitate objects, I doubt she was severed from it. And even if she was, she would still have to be bonded to the Exile to use the Force.

Originally posted by Nephthys

He isn't actually in the nexus, so he can't tap into it. Simple.

Legend, there's no need to spend money on me. I don't particularly want to post over there. I have my time full dealing with this place.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
I don't think she would either, the Exile was only able to draw on the Force through Kreia and her companions, "But it doesn't feel like it did ....it feels like it is coming from across a great distance." While Traya had her powers stripped, she wasn't completely cutoff from the Force as Surik was. Considering that Kreia needs the Force to see, let alone levitate objects, I doubt she was severed from it. And even if she was, she would still have to be bonded to the Exile to use the Force.

👆

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
I don't know where the nexus ends and begins, or the range from it one can be to use it. Enlighten me.

I don't know that either, though I would say that you'd need to be actually on the frickin planet to use it.

Yeah, I guess. Still a pointless debate. Five Jedi far from featless, four of which are the most powerful in the Order vs. One Sith anywhere is a feat if I've ever seen one.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Yeah, I guess. Still a pointless debate. Five Jedi far from featless, four of which are the most powerful in the Order vs. One Sith anywhere is a feat if I've ever seen one.

Yeppers

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Done slandering?

And this gem is really cheap:

What are you, a spokesman of KMC?

And its nice to see how you changed colors in SWTOR official form, specifically targeting me and DarthAnt66.

My subscription have expired so I cannot post in that forum for a moment.

However, I was baffled by what you brought to my attention in the first place, I never expected SWTOR official form member (LadyKulvax) to post something that is not public knowledge and get defensive when asked to present evidence. Maybe she is right, maybe she is wrong. But if wrong, it [B]is a matter of misleading the masses. however, it is also possible that she is remembering stuff wrong, nobody is perfect is memories.

Of-course, I do think that DarthAnt66 came off as harsh on her, and I decided to diffuse the situation in my thread on SWTOR official form upon my return. But look at the reactions of another SWTOR official forum member (BeniboyBling), mind-blowing. 🙄

I get the friendship aspect, but I don't get bullying. [/B]

1. And how is that slander? It was a joke that implied Selenial would also be here for quite. Some. Time.

2. Sorry if you misunderstood that one, the "mutual" part was not in regards to you.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Hmm...beginning to like you. 😉
Maybe a date later? I know a place.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
1. And how is that slander? It was a joke that implied Selenial would also be here for quite. Some. Time.

2. Sorry if you misunderstood that one, the "mutual" part was not in regards to you.

I know exactly what you were doing.

Pssh, I linked it when you started slinging out assertions in regards to the quality of KMC and their debaters. That said, using the actions of Ant and LeGenD to demean and undermine the entire forum is, quite frankly, misplaced.

Tell me, what did I do?

You fueled this shit-storm and I am getting blamed for it in the official SWTOR forum. Nice. Really nice.

Then comes this response from OP:

Oh I'm not.

Most of the stuff we're laughing at isn't LeGenD, it's everyone else.

We, unfortunately, had to get used to LeGenD some time ago.

And you respond in kind:

We had LeGenD way longer before this forum even started.

And the feeling is mutual on their part, btw.

Subtle attempt to shame me. Really good.

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At-least I stand up for what I believe in, you change colors.

I thought you were a better person, I was wrong. You don't deserve my attention. And you stay out of my thread in SWTOR.