Mystique vs Bucky

Started by juggerman23 pages

It's not just about "lifting feats". It's about any feats at all

Originally posted by Mindset
We aren't talking about low showings.

By that reasoning, Cap could beat Thanos in the movie because Thanos has low showings in the comics.

Based on the vast majority of comic showings, Ronan should not be able to beat Drax easily, and Cap should not beat Thanos. However, Ronan did.

So in conclusion, WS stomps. 👆

Not even close to the same analogy. Ronan is VASTLY closer to drax than Cap is to Thanos. You're saying Ronan shouldn't be able to beat Drax easily.. but comics say otherwise and thus we can look to comics to see how it could be possible. On the other hand... We can also look to comics to know that Thanos is exponentially stronger than Cap and cap could never beat him. Even if Thanos has zero showings and just sits there and talks the whole movie. We know he's based on comics.. we know what his powerset and abilities are... thus we know he's exponentially stronger than Cap.. with or without feats. Which is the point, you guys are acting like these movie guys aren't based on the comic character and it's the total opposite. They are mostly all based on comics and how they are presented there. We don't just discount this fact like it doesn't exist.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Not much needs to be said further. If you're incapable of using common sense and logic to say Thanos would be stronger than cap with no lifting feats... then we can't really progress.

Have you ever read the MVF rules? If you haven't, let me provide you with the golden rule:

The MVF Golden Rule:
What is seen on screen is canon in these forums. If your character you wish to use has feats/actions/handicaps that contradict what that character did on screen (movie canon), then it is a violation and is illegal. MOVIE FEATS ONLY!

Thanos has no movie feats. So you cannot claim him stronger than anyone until such time that he has any movie feats.

So just to be clear. 99% of people here say Bucky wins. While Kurupt says it's Mystique, despite her having no feats to put her on Bucky's level or have a way past his arm. Correct?

Pretty much yeah.

Originally posted by KingD19
So just to be clear. 99% of people here say Bucky wins. While Kurupt says it's Mystique, despite her having no feats to put her on Bucky's level or have a way past his arm. Correct?

Basically.

How on earth does Winter Soldier lose this? Who has she beaten worth of note?

Wolverine apparently

Originally posted by juggerman
Wolverine apparently

Wolverine beat her, lmao!

Shhhhhhh!!!!!

Literally how does he say he beats the Winter Soldier, there is not one shed of proof. He would get one shotted and KO'd.

Duh, Time. Because he really wants her to win.

Originally posted by KingD19
Duh, Time. Because he really wants her to win.

It doesn't matter, he has zero proof.

TWS walks up to her and punches her in the face and her lights go out.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
It doesn't matter, he has zero proof.

TWS walks up to her and punches her in the face and her lights go out.

I know he has no proof and we've disputed and disproved pretty much everything he said. But...he really REALLY wants her to win.

😎

Originally posted by KingD19
I know he has no proof and we've disputed and disproved pretty much everything he said. But...he really REALLY wants her to win.

😎

😆

Originally posted by FrothByte
Have you ever read the MVF rules? If you haven't, let me provide you with the golden rule:

Thanos has no movie feats. So you cannot claim him stronger than anyone until such time that he has any movie feats.

Another failed attempt Frosty... I never once tried to use his comic book feats. What I simply said is... Movie characters ABILITIES.. TRAITS.. PERSONALITIES are based on comics. That's WHERE they get the info about these characters they're using on the big screen. So that is TOTALLY admissible because the movie uses said background info correct?

Originally posted by KingD19
So just to be clear. 99% of people here say Bucky wins. While Kurupt says it's Mystique, despite her having no feats to put her on Bucky's level or have a way past his arm. Correct?

Incorrect... You or Juggs or Silent or Time or Frosty... LIST FOR ME THE PEOPLE THAT BUCKY HAS BEATEN.. READY SET GO!!! I have the ONLY solid proof of who wins because Mystique got the better of somebody superior to ANYBODY Cap or Bucky has fought let alone beaten. If you can't name for me one person Bucky has beaten, and then turn around and say I have nothing to back up Mystique winning.. Doesn't get much more LULZ worthy than that. Now go ahead and name them

Sure I'll do that. As soon as you list the notable foes Mystique has beaten. And before you say Wolverine, remember that she has never beaten Wolverine.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Incorrect... You or Juggs or Silent or Time or Frosty... LIST FOR ME THE PEOPLE THAT BUCKY HAS BEATEN.. READY SET GO!!! I have the ONLY solid proof of who wins because Mystique got the better of somebody superior to ANYBODY Cap or Bucky has fought let alone beaten. If you can't name for me one person Bucky has beaten, and then turn around and say I have nothing to back up Mystique winning.. Doesn't get much more LULZ worthy than that. Now go ahead and name them

Bucky went Toe to Toe with Cap.

Nuff said.

She's the more acrobatic and flexible fighter, but I don't see her punches and kicks coming close to Cap's despite her enhanced strength.

So not sure how she's going to knock out or kill WS before he tears her in half with his robo-arm.