Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Another failed attempt Frosty... I never once tried to use his comic book feats. What I simply said is... Movie characters ABILITIES.. TRAITS.. PERSONALITIES are based on comics. That's WHERE they get the info about these characters they're using on the big screen. So that is TOTALLY admissible because the movie uses said background info correct?
Read the rules, only movie feats count.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Incorrect... You or Juggs or Silent or Time or Frosty... LIST FOR ME THE PEOPLE THAT BUCKY HAS BEATEN.. READY SET GO!!! I have the ONLY solid proof of who wins because Mystique got the better of somebody superior to ANYBODY Cap or Bucky has fought let alone beaten. If you can't name for me one person Bucky has beaten, and then turn around and say I have nothing to back up Mystique winning.. Doesn't get much more LULZ worthy than that. Now go ahead and name them
You're acting like Mystique beat Wolverine, she didn't, nor did she even come close to matching him in stats....Bucky on the other hand was shown to be near Cap's level as far as skill and stats go.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Incorrect... You or Juggs or Silent or Time or Frosty... LIST FOR ME THE PEOPLE THAT BUCKY HAS BEATEN.. READY SET GO!!! I have the ONLY solid proof of who wins because Mystique got the better of somebody superior to ANYBODY Cap or Bucky has fought let alone beaten. If you can't name for me one person Bucky has beaten, and then turn around and say I have nothing to back up Mystique winning.. Doesn't get much more LULZ worthy than that. Now go ahead and name them
How did she get the best of Wolverine when wolverine took her out. And by no means is that a good feat for him either. He usually gets his ass kicked by girls.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Not even close to the same analogy. Ronan is VASTLY closer to drax than Cap is to Thanos. You're saying Ronan shouldn't be able to beat Drax easily.. but comics say otherwise and thus we can look to comics to see how it could be possible. On the other hand... We can also look to comics to know that Thanos is exponentially stronger than Cap and cap could never beat him. Even if Thanos has zero showings and just sits there and talks the whole movie. We know he's based on comics.. we know what his powerset and abilities are... thus we know he's exponentially stronger than Cap.. with or without feats. Which is the point, you guys are acting like these movie guys aren't based on the comic character and it's the total opposite. They are mostly all based on comics and how they are presented there. We don't just discount this fact like it doesn't exist.
You're right, Ronan is closer to Drax in the comic, but in the movie he was beating Drax like Thanos would beat Cap in the comics. The comics don't say Ronan should be able to beat Drax easily, what are you talking about?
Anyway, WS wins.
Get over it. 👆
Originally posted by FrothByte
Sure I'll do that. As soon as you list the notable foes Mystique has beaten. And before you say Wolverine, remember that she has never beaten Wolverine.
Why are you asked me question when I asked you a question. That's odd. She's gotten the better of Wolverine and had him flat on his back and dazed. Multiple times. He couldn't so much as land a blow on her. Yet, he's been able to land blows on numerous foes, but couldn't her. Now, GO AHEAD AND LIST FOR ME THE PEOPLE BUCKY AS BEATEN... READY SET GO!! I have no proof... coming from the Bucky side that's laughable
I might as well list mystique getting the jump on magneto and holding a weapon to his threat before he could react and being able to kill him. That seems better than anybody bucky has "beaten"
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Why are you asked me question when I asked you a question. That's odd. She's gotten the better of Wolverine and had him flat on his back and dazed. Multiple times. He couldn't so much as land a blow on her. Yet, he's been able to land blows on numerous foes, but couldn't her. Now, GO AHEAD AND LIST FOR ME THE PEOPLE BUCKY AS BEATEN... READY SET GO!! I have no proof... coming from the Bucky side that's laughableI might as well list mystique getting the jump on magneto and holding a weapon to his threat before he could react and being able to kill him. That seems better than anybody bucky has "beaten"
What?
Lets be real, she was never going to kill him and he was not going to kill her in that scene.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Read the rules, only movie feats count.You're acting like Mystique beat Wolverine, she didn't, nor did she even come close to matching him in stats....Bucky on the other hand was shown to be near Cap's level as far as skill and stats go.
Still waiting for that person Bucky has beaten. She did get the better of Wolverine... We can't say the same for bucky getting the better of Cap. She had wolverine on the ground dazed and could've easily pressed the attacked and KO'd him. We've also seen Wolverine able to land blows on numerous people.... yet couldn't land a blow on her. No list the people bucky has beaten or concede he hasn't beaten anybody.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
How did she get the best of Wolverine when wolverine took her out. And by no means is that a good feat for him either. He usually gets his ass kicked by girls.
He took her out when they were done fighting and she had already gotten the better of him... That was a sneak attack... During direct combat he couldn't land a blow
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Still waiting for that person Bucky has beaten. She did get the better of Wolverine... We can't say the same for bucky getting the better of Cap. She had wolverine on the ground dazed and could've easily pressed the attacked and KO'd him. We've also seen Wolverine able to land blows on numerous people.... yet couldn't land a blow on her. No list the people bucky has beaten or concede he hasn't beaten anybody.
She neither beat Wolverine or matched him in stats, Bucky on the other hand did match Cap in stats and skill.
Thus per feats Bucky >>> Mystique.
Bucky has beaten anybody then? Is that what you're now conceding? She doesn't need to match him in stats.. she got the better of the fight and that's all that matters. Wolverine has landed blows on numerous people.. people that would crush Cap or Bucky with ease. He couldn't land a single blow on her because of her skills. SO... you concede bucky hasn't beaten anybody then? Shit he couldn't he even the better of Cap like Mystique got the better of Wolverine.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiWho has Wolverine beaten that would crush Cap and Bucky with ease, that would not be able to crush Mystique with ease?
Bucky has beaten anybody then? Is that what you're now conceding? She doesn't need to match him in stats.. she got the better of the fight and that's all that matters. Wolverine has landed blows on numerous people.. people that would crush Cap or Bucky with ease. He couldn't land a single blow on her because of her skills. SO... you concede bucky hasn't beaten anybody then? Shit he couldn't he even the better of Cap like Mystique got the better of Wolverine.
Actually, Bucky got the better of Cap multiple times in their first fight.
Originally posted by KingD19
Bucky pushed Cap farther than anyone he's fought so far and is an assassin with 7 decades ofor kills under his belt. Mystique on the other hand got her claws cut off, scored a few hits on Logan, ran away, then got gutted.One of these is clearly >>>> the other.
So he didn't beat anybody then? I didn't ask who he gave a good fight 2.. WHO CARES... Nobody cares about doing okay. WHO HAS HE BEARTEN. If you guys can't name anybody than we'll go ahead and say Mystique wins then. Mystique GOT THE BETTER OF WOLVERINE... Bucky couldn't even get the better of Cap... Looking okay isn't worth a damn. Mystique got the better of somebody that would beat Cap. Wolverine with Claws beats Cap... and it wouldn't be that hard. Mystique dealt with his claws.. no shield no nothing and he couldn't land a blow. Very telling. Unless you guys can name one person Bucky has beaten or gotten the better of.. This round robin conversation is done.. Mystique wins.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So he didn't beat anybody then? I didn't ask who he gave a good fight 2.. WHO CARES... Nobody cares about doing okay. WHO HAS HE BEARTEN. If you guys can't name anybody than we'll go ahead and say Mystique wins then. Mystique GOT THE BETTER OF WOLVERINE... Bucky couldn't even get the better of Cap... Looking okay isn't worth a damn. Mystique got the better of somebody that would beat Cap. Wolverine with Claws beats Cap... and it wouldn't be that hard. Mystique dealt with his claws.. no shield no nothing and he couldn't land a blow. Very telling. Unless you guys can name one person Bucky has beaten or gotten the better of.. This round robin conversation is done.. Mystique wins.
If only wins matter, who has Mystique beaten?
Originally posted by Mindset
Who has Wolverine beaten that would crush Cap and Bucky with ease, that would not be able to crush Mystique with ease?Actually, Bucky got the better of Cap multiple times in their first fight.
He beat Creed with Claws.. Creed with Claws beats Cap h2h. Wolverine was also going toe to toe with weapon x.. somebody who would've crushed Cap EASILY had they met. Cap wouldn't have even made it to the point where Creed could help. Wolverine has beaten Gambit... Again he's not great h2h but that's still a victory. Yet, wolverine couldn't LAND A BLOW on Mystique and got utterly toyed with and knocked around EASILY. Now name me this people Bucky BEAT or got the better off. Cause he lost to Cap.. that isn't a feat.
WS completely dominated Black Widow and would have killed her if Cap didn't interfere.
Mystique was nowhere near killing Wolverine or even knocking him out. So she landed a few hits on Wolverine and knocked him down. Big deal. Just about everyone who Wolverine fights does that to him including some random cage fighter.