Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Where on earth are people getting this notion that the WS is as skilled as mystique? that literally couldn't be further from the truth. The movies slap us in the face wit who is more skilled and it's clearly mystique.
Where on earth are people getting this notion that Mystique is as skilled as WS? Winter Soldier matched Captain America. Who has Mystique taken on that had that level of skill?
Originally posted by FrothByte
Where on earth are people getting this notion that Mystique is as skilled as WS? Winter Soldier matched Captain America. Who has Mystique taken on that had that level of skill?
Are you honestly blind or just being obtuse on purpose. Do you see the acrobatic moves she pulls off with utter ease? She's shown agility and skills Bucky has even dreamed of showing in the movies. Further, you ask a question and get a simple answer which you walked yourself into and there is no getting out of now. She got the better of Wolverine... and this is vastly more impressive than anybody Cap has beaten or Bucky has beaten. Thanks for making my case for me.
Originally posted by Mindsetnah, Mystique is more skilled and faster than Widow.
So did Cap, except they were highly trained Shield operatives and he was handcuffed. Cap isn't that much more skilled than WS.I'd put Mystique on BW level, who WS is better than.
I'd say Mystique is on (or slightly above) Bucky's level in mastial arts, but loses due to Bucky's ability to absorb any damage she can deal and one-shot her in return.
Originally posted by marwash22Based on what? Because she does flips and is flexible?
nah, Mystique is more skilled and faster than Widow.I'd say Mystique is on (or slightly above) Bucky's level in mastial arts, but loses due to Bucky's ability to absorb any damage she can deal and one-shot her in return.
Cap is better than Mystique, that's really not up for debate, and WS and Cap were fighting on fairly equal terms for most of the movie.
Mystique has never beaten anyone of note.
Originally posted by Mindsetwatch the fight against Wolverine from the first movie, she's clearly above Widow's human level abilities.
Based on what? Because she does flips and is flexible?
Originally posted by Mindseti never claimed otherwise. I already said Bucky wins.
Cap is better than Mystique, that's really not up for debate, and WS and Cap were fighting on fairly equal terms for most of the movie.
Originally posted by Mindset
Mystique has never beaten anyone of note.
lol, neither has Widow.
However, Mystique has fought superhuman's... meanwhile, Widow ran from Bucky as to not get her shit pushed in.
Originally posted by marwash22Wolverine was a shitty fighter in the first movie. Without his claws he would have lost to pretty much anyone. They didn't show him with any actual skill until the later movies.
watch the fight against Wolverine from the first movie, she's clearly above Widow's human level abilities.i never claimed otherwise. I already said Bucky wins.
lol, neither has Widow.
However, Mystique has fought superhuman's... meanwhile, Widow ran from Bucky as to not get her shit pushed in.
Yea, which is why I have BW and Mystique on the same level, below that of WS and Cap. 👆
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Are you honestly blind or just being obtuse on purpose. Do you see the acrobatic moves she pulls off with utter ease? She's shown agility and skills Bucky has even dreamed of showing in the movies. Further, you ask a question and get a simple answer which you walked yourself into and there is no getting out of now. She got the better of Wolverine... and this is vastly more impressive than anybody Cap has beaten or Bucky has beaten. Thanks for making my case for me.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but fighting skill is not determined by who has the fancier moves. Because if that was the case then gymnasts would beat up every single boxer or wrestler in a fight.
Mystique is more acrobatic, more flexible and more agile than Winter Soldier. That still doesn't mean that she's the better fighter.
She took out a bunch of armed fodder. Nothing exactly new in the superhero wold. Black Widow constantly takes out groups of armed men, look how easily Winter Soldier took her out.
Wolverine in the movies is one hell of a crappy fighter. I'm going to pretend that I simply misunderstood your last comment and hope you didn't really mean to say that Wolverine is actually more skilled than Captain America.
Fact is, Mystique still hasn't fought against anyone of decent skill. Definitely no one of Cap's level, not even on BW's level.