Originally posted by The Gray Ghost
Any fight between Thor and Hulk that lasts more than one panel is utter PIS given
1. Thor can just dimension dump the dude anytime he likes/ any other exotic stuff with his hammer2.Thor can just throw him into space .....and thats that
3. Even ignoring 1 and 2 , Thor's reaction speed is so far above Bruce " I cant land a hit on street levellers jumping about for oh 5 decades now" Banner, its not even funny.
Besides, Thor's stronger anyway and while the difference in strength isn't too much, it does make a difference when you can land about a 100 hits before your opponent can respond
Similarly Thor vs Doomsday isnt really a battle....Its just a question of how quickly Thor decides to BFR him
This is not CBR.
Originally posted by psycho gundamMy favorite part is he just sees a Superman character and gives him the win even if he knows nothing about him.
lmao
I just quickly skimmed through the issue yesterday and Nu DD made what, like 3 portals that he teleported through? So that leaves what he knows about Doomsday restricted to like two things since he clearly did not read the issue or even pay attention to the scans that were likely posted. Those two things would be:
Superman ripped DD in half (no prior knowledge apparently), and DD beat up WW (assuming he knows this).
That means DD beats up Thor 8/10
Originally posted by -Pr-
Guys, Hulk isn't in this thread. Stop.
I know right.
Originally posted by The Gray Ghost
Seriously dude , you seem extremely biased about the Hulk.Instead of posting scans of unknown speedsters moving at unknown speeds you could just have posted scans of Hulk hitting Quicksilver or Surfer or somebody.
And heck for that matter I can point out several occasions of Thor doing stuff like tagging surfer actually using his speed and it would still mean less than nothing
If we could categorise every person who has ever hit a speedster as a speedster , Captain Cold and Heatwave would be blitzing Zoom by now
There are any number of things you need to ignore to take Hulks speed showinhs seriously whether it be his presentation from day 1 as a dude whom every street leveller fights with the oh so original strategy of "Hmmm theres only one way to survive this.....dodge like crazy!" Or his almost complete lack of speed feats OUTISDE fights to justify any of his showings within fights
Heres the type of logic I go by
Wally West rescues half a million people after a nuke detonates. But Superman tags him anyway .Thats PISSuperman himself does things like escape the pull of a black hole after accelerating from zero to lightspeed in a couple of panels, reacts in nanoseconds etc. But people lik Toyman with ZERO speed feats are presented as a threat to him . PIS
And finally Silver Surfer does things like scour the planet in the time strange finishes a sentence, fights Deathruge at explicitly FTL speeds etc vs Thor who has decent speedfeats to the extent of microseconds but is nowhere close to Surfer in terms of reaction speed. Thats again PIS
We come to Hulk . Or doomsday if you will.almost no quantifiable speed feats for either to come close to Thors own stuff.
Please note this is not one feat or even five for these guys. It is feats spread over decades , consistent with character presentation/ stuff outside fightsId be happy to debate you on that matter but 1.this is not the thread for it 2. You need to set certain standards for said characters and not go "every feat counts, never mind they cobtradict decades of consistent showings!" Otherwise this is going to turn into "Hulk can thunderclap through dimensions! Thor can kill celestials that Skyfathers cant!"
And hey even if you ignore everything else whats to stop Thor from just flying waay out of reach and doing whatever the hell he pleases from range(Godblast after charging up in say the moon and returning to deliver the blow on earth) anything really
A moderator has asked us to stop discussing Hulk it seems
So anyway Thor flies up , up and away and does whatever he pleases at his leisure to Doomsday
Or he straight up beats the crap out of the dude with zero speed feats
Do you have an attention span problem? -Pr- just said to stay on topic. Why not just make a thread on the way that you feel? This isn't the place to do it.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
The funny thing is Zod was in no way in any position to break Superman's arm. Superman's arm was bent so it's hard to imagine he just pulled it and broke it. It doesn't look like he just jammed it in and broke it. And the bent angle and his gently holding Superman's arm doesn't look like he just bent it in a way to snap it. Did he bend it up or something and snap it, but then shoulders bend quite a ways so...srug
Whatever he did, he was in no way in an advantageous position to do so.
Breaking bones with strikes isn't unheard of. What Zod did was just weird. Still impressive though.
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Zod was actually in a terrible position to break Superman's arm and he did it relatively easily.
Doomsday was also a weird scene but at least it look like he struck Diana right below her joints:
Originally posted by Branlor Swiftyou pretty much nailed it with the first line. Kal-Qaeda sees something that is or can be linked to how superman is viewed and then everything they post after that thought crosses their mind is forever altered in order to make him look good.
My favorite part is he just sees a Superman character and gives him the win even if he knows nothing about him.I just quickly skimmed through the issue yesterday and Nu DD made what, like 3 portals that he teleported through? So that leaves what he knows about Doomsday restricted to like two things since he clearly did not read the issue or even pay attention to the scans that were likely posted. Those two things would be:
Superman ripped DD in half (no prior knowledge apparently), and DD beat up WW (assuming he knows this).
That means DD beats up Thor 8/10
it's not even about doomsday
Originally posted by psycho gundam
lmao
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
My favorite part is he just sees a Superman character and gives him the win even if he knows nothing about him.I just quickly skimmed through the issue yesterday and Nu DD made what, like 3 portals that he teleported through? So that leaves what he knows about Doomsday restricted to like two things since he clearly did not read the issue or even pay attention to the scans that were likely posted. Those two things would be:
Superman ripped DD in half (no prior knowledge apparently), and DD beat up WW (assuming he knows this).
That means DD beats up Thor 8/10
Kids, calm down, everything's gonna be ok, papa is here.
So, Nu DD is the reason for your outrage and your "mimimimi you are biased" assault I guess. Well, he was a tier above Heralds, obviously. Some chars might appear once and be that way, think about Tutinax. Just because Superman defeated him doesn't mean it isn't that way. Think of DS who would push Thors shit in, he too was defeated, or his avatars, by Superman. That's not a low feat. On the contrary. Accept, breath and think boys.
See ya 😉.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbeyou're comparing a low feat of thor's to the best dd feats he has. got it
Kids, calm down, everything's gonna be ok, papa is here.So, Nu DD is the reason for your outrage and your "mimimimi you are biased" assault I guess. Well, he was a tier above Heralds, obviously. Some chars might appear once and be that way, think about Tutinax. Just because Superman defeated him doesn't mean it isn't that way. Think of DS who would push Thors shit in, he too was defeated, or his avatars, by Superman. That's not a low feat. On the contrary. Accept, breath and think boys.
See ya 😉.
the tutinax thing was a joke (i hope), if not i can gladly do a battlezone over it
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbeI have no outrage, I just find it funny that you gave Thor two wins over DD due to BFR when anyone with even a mild attention span would have seen DD teleporting had they read the comic. Which indicates you did not.
Kids, calm down, everything's gonna be ok, papa is here.So, Nu DD is the reason for your outrage and your "mimimimi you are biased" assault I guess. Well, he was a tier above Heralds, obviously. Some chars might appear once and be that way, think about Tutinax. Just because Superman defeated him doesn't mean it isn't that way. Think of DS who would push Thors shit in, he too was defeated, or his avatars, by Superman. That's not a low feat. On the contrary. Accept, breath and think boys.
See ya 😉.
Which would make DD beating Thor hilarious considering what you have to go on. Though full context is still funny as well.
As for your "defeated" comment, DS didn't get burned to a crisp and torn in half. And his only other feats aren't beating WW, getting stalemated and sliced through by WW, and getting defeated by Zod.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I have no outrage, I just find it funny that you gave Thor two wins over DD due to BFR when anyone with even a mild attention span would have seen DD teleporting had they read the comic. Which indicates you did not.Which would make DD beating Thor hilarious considering what you have to go on. Though full context is still funny as well.
As for your "defeated" comment, DS didn't get burned to a crisp and torn in half. And his only other feats aren't beating WW, getting stalemated and sliced through by WW, and getting defeated by Zod.
😂
All he had to go on was that Superman ripped Doomsday in half. Naturally that was enough to give him 8/10 against Thor.
Did we ever see Zod finishing Doomsday?
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I have no outrage, I just find it funny that you gave Thor two wins over DD due to BFR when anyone with even a mild attention span would have seen DD teleporting had they read the comic. Which indicates you did not.Which would make DD beating Thor hilarious considering what you have to go on. Though full context is still funny as well.
As for your "defeated" comment, DS didn't get burned to a crisp and torn in half. And his only other feats aren't beating WW, getting stalemated and sliced through by WW, and getting defeated by Zod.
Thor can bfr people in other dimensions, magic in nature too, so 😉. As said, think ma boy ^^.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbeNaturally that's what you were describing... Scrambling to a defense.
Thor can bfr people in other dimensions, magic in nature too, so 😉. As said, think ma boy ^^.
And why is BFR only a factor in the only Doomsday that can actually teleport? Afterall, Thor can BFR people to other dimensions! The Doomsday who clawed physical matter from the Phantom Zone, and who actually escaped it (though crumbling walls and all) is the guy who gets BFR'ed.
No, BFR is only relevant to Nu DC DD. Not Doomsday Wars DD who got BFR'ed. Or HP Doomsday, who got BFR'ed.
Let's face it. you know nothing about this Nu DD, and your comment about "one appearance and losing to Superman" doesn't help either.