Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
If it was a shockwave why were WINDOWS still in tact? That would be the first thing destroyed by anything remotely resembling a shockwave or releasing any meaningful Kinetic force... yet NOTHING happens to them. Gave ova Time
The area around them had been completly wrecked already and they were outside a parking garage. How are there supposed to be windows broken in that area when there are no windows to break.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Really show me windows or structures being destroyed from them. We see NONE of that. What you're calling shockwaves aren't that at all since they produce to side effects or collateral damage. If they are... then those are some of the weakest shockwaves I've ever seen since damn windows don't even break. That shows they weren't. However, as you can see when I posted my ORIGINAL question. I'm looking for collateral damage from them... now post that or concede it didn't
Since you can't figure it out: The smaller shockwaves didn't break anything, the super-massive ones when butthurt Zod and ragey Kal went all out did damage the surroundings area
ps the director showing us that shockwaves are created when these people fight was to illustrate the power these aliens are producing with just punches, but yeah, you stick with "weak" and everyone will continue to laugh at you
Originally posted by juggerman
I'm I seeing this correctly? Is the argument really "if windows didn't shatter, then there was no shockwave"?So if a shockwave happened in the middle of a desert, it can't be a shockwave? Or on the moon? That can't really be the defense here right?
More so that the non existent windows didn't shatter therefore there was no shock wave.
Originally posted by Impediment
I've been summoned to make ruling.Present to me your arguments, you wretched hive of scum and villainy.
This whole thread is tl;dr.
Summed up, this is the argument.
KT says shockwaves were never produced.
Screen feats says otherswise,
Rob and I produced stills and videos, KT refuses to accept them.
Originally posted by Robtard
Originally posted by Robtard
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
While I certainly can't argue that the punches from Superman and Zod produced sonic booms, it can be argued that punches of such magnitude and raw power could, indeed, create an effect mentioned in the argument.
Is this what your argument states?
Originally posted by juggerman
I'm I seeing this correctly? Is the argument really "if windows didn't shatter, then there was no shockwave"?So if a shockwave happened in the middle of a desert, it can't be a shockwave? Or on the moon? That can't really be the defense here right?
Only it wasn't in the desert was it? There were building all around with windows. In smallville and in the city fight. Superman even does 3 FLYING punches which would've produced more force literally right in the middle of high rise buildings and the windows are fine. In the smallville fight there were windows ALL around and nothing was broken. However, to walk the dog some more.. even in a desert situation we would see a shockwave move sand and material in the direction of the wave. So even then we'd see evidence of it. There is none to be had from these super powered kinetic punches.
Originally posted by Impediment
Shock Wave.While I certainly can't argue that the punches from Superman and Zod produced sonic booms, it can be argued that punches of such magnitude and raw power could, indeed, create an effect mentioned in the argument.
Is this what your argument states?
Sonic booms isn't the argument... the argument is whether they produced kinetic energies from them I.e. shockwaves or some of the like. As we can see, these punches produced no shockwaves that destroyed anything. Should I post scans of hulk thunderclapping so we all know what shockwaves of any substances or kinetic energy released means? I can certainly do so if needed. As we can see there were windows still in tact all over the place during the smallville fight. Same with the fight in the city of Zod and Kal... We even see Kal throwing three haymakers WHILE flying (which would produce more energy then simply trading blows on the ground) right in between high rise buildings and ALL the windows remained in tact. As you can see by the first question I posed on the previous page. I'm disputing the fact that these punches produced such kinetic force and energy that there was collateral damage from them. You can clearly see from my question in the previous page that was my EXACT query. They came back with white blurry lines which could indicate speed.. or sonic booms and claim these are shockwaves... only they aren't. That is the argument.
Originally posted by Robtard
Since you can't figure it out: The smaller shockwaves didn't break anything, the super-massive ones when butthurt Zod and ragey Kal went all out did damage the surroundings areaps the director showing us that shockwaves are created when these people fight was to illustrate the power these aliens are producing with just punches, but yeah, you stick with "weak" and everyone will continue to laugh at you
Wrong again, when they were exchanging blows NO visible damage to the surrounding area occurred. shit debris on the ground wasn't even moved. You call those white blurry images shockwaves. They literally DO nothing. As you can see from my original question I disputed the fact that these punches produced ANY REAL KINETIC ENERGY OR CREATED ANY COLLATERAL DAMAGE FROM RESULTING ENERGY. You have YET, to provide any evidence that the punches produced said energy I asked. Showing white blurry lines after punches and the impact of them.. aren't kinetic energy being released in any meaningful way. Clearly since nothing was moved or destroyed around them when they exchanged blows. I don't call wite blurry lines kinetic energy of any relevance or shockwaves. They could very easily just be showing how fast they were punching and the speed and impact of them. As shown, superman had even more kinetic energy with his flying haymakers and not a thing happened to the windows around all around them.
Its funny, you keep saying "show me, show me, show me" we do, then you say "no there are no windows being destroyed."
Then here are the windows being destroyed, then its not applicable according to you because its not from punches only. Whats funny is who made you the mod on what is accepted and what is not accepted?
Originally posted by Robtard
Reposted for like the 7th or 8th time now:😂 @ U
Crater impact from shockwaves. Windows building be destroyed. 😂
Then we show you those above, and you say those are not shockwaves.
I mean you are clearly just switching and twisting stances, arguments and refusing to see truth's.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Its funny, you keep saying "show me, show me, show me" we do, then you say "no there are no windows being destroyed."Then here are the windows being destroyed, then its not applicable according to you because its not from punches only. Whats funny is who made you the mod on what is accepted and what is not accepted?
Crater impact from shockwaves. Windows building be destroyed. 😂
Then we show you those above, and you say those are not shockwaves.
I mean you are clearly just switching and twisting stances, arguments and refusing to see truth's.
Why would I count that. You produced a crater and windows destroyed WHEN THEY COLLIDED. I ask for when this happened via punches. So why would I accept something I didn't answer for or question? Is that really so hard to understand? We LITERALLY see no buildings or windows destroyed in the smallville fight. Even when they were fighting in the middle of the street.
Answer me this Time... You would agree that more kinetic energy would be released from a super flying punch from superman. Way more so than them just standing there exchanging blows. Yet he did so three times RIGHT SQUARE in the middle of high rise buildings and NOTHIGN was destroyed and all the windows were in tact. Explain that?
Originally posted by juggerman
You've missed the point entirely. I'm asking why is "windows not be broken" the end all for a shockwave? You do realize one can occur without destroying anything right?
I even used your example of the desert... SAND AND MATERIALS would be moved by anything remotely powerful correct? That is the point. Yes if there is LITERALLY nothing around them, then sure you might not see debris moving or windows breaking. Show me once where I disputed this. However, that ISN'T the case with this fight is it? There are windows all around them and nothing happens to them numerous times after punches. Shit debris isn't even moved from them and their impact. THAT is the point.