Originally posted by NemeBroLoki's speed of thought was stated to be faster than lightning, and beyond all reckoning. And that was him erecting an entire ice wall in the time it took Mjolnir to travel like a foot. Plus radio waves being light speed...
That's pretty slow compared to Superman.
Though Superman blitzing at light speed was a question preboot, let alone now.
Loki has the speed to react to what Superman does. Whether that means he wins is up for debate, but just pretending he gets blitzed and auto loses is silly as pickles. Especially when the guy can turn intangible, shape shift, go mist form, teleport, or just fly really ****ing fast. And there's the part where he has outright taken Mjolnir thrown at him at lightspeed really well.
Originally posted by Branlor SwiftCould not have said it better myself.
Loki's speed of thought was stated to be faster than lightning, and beyond all reckoning. And that was him erecting an entire ice wall in the time it took Mjolnir to travel like a foot. Plus radio waves being light speed...Though Superman blitzing at light speed was a question preboot, let alone now.
Loki has the speed to react to what Superman does. Whether that means he wins is up for debate, but just pretending he gets blitzed and auto loses is silly as pickles. Especially when the guy can turn intangible, shape shift, go mist form, teleport, or just fly really ****ing fast. And there's the part where he has outright taken Mjolnir thrown at him at lightspeed really well.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85I HATE the speed blitz. It defeated the purpose of a lot of the threads for me. And to make matters worse, Marvel is very stingy with speed feats for some reason.
Meh, I'm still correct. Always did say superman wins if he blitzes.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusPunching him to orbit, tearing him in half, puny god slam (ala Hulk), etc. I'll let Abhi educate you later on. biscuits
How does Superman, much less DCnU Superman (Who's weakness to magic has also been emphasized), stomp Loki?Are you using Kid Loki instead of Adult?
LOL, Loki has held his own against Surtur and has Godlike reflexes, the only way hes getting punched into space or torn in half is if he falls asleep. Loki has far too many ways to win this battle, hell, he even took on 3 thors at once and was winning, even making several copies of himself while battling Surtur and has hid his location from Odin and Hemidall , both whose senses make supermans look like a new born childs.
Superman rips Loki in half. Rage cries himself to sleep.
And DCnU Superman has hit intangible beings before, tracked teleportation across solar system etc. HV that could incinerate Doomsday would **** Loki up. Oh and he has taken magical attacks from characters and weapons which can destroy dozen or hundred of planets. Loki is screwed here.
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Originally posted by abhilegendLoki has a very good chance of winning (with the magic, superior h2h skills, intangibility, super durability, and impressive strength.). please tell me what New 52 Doomsday has done.
Superman rips Loki in half. Rage cries himself to sleep.And DCnU Superman has hit intangible beings before, tracked teleportation across solar system etc. HV that could incinerate Doomsday would **** Loki up. Oh and he has taken magical attacks from characters and weapons which can destroy dozen or hundred of planets. Loki is screwed here.
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Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Loki's speed of thought was stated to be faster than lightning, and beyond all reckoning. And that was him erecting an entire ice wall in the time it took Mjolnir to travel like a foot. Plus radio waves being light speed...Though Superman blitzing at light speed was a question preboot, let alone now.
Loki has the speed to react to what Superman does. Whether that means he wins is up for debate, but just pretending he gets blitzed and auto loses is silly as pickles. Especially when the guy can turn intangible, shape shift, go mist form, teleport, or just fly really ****ing fast. And there's the part where he has outright taken Mjolnir thrown at him at lightspeed really well.
Well, no Loki has not consistently shown he has super speed anywhere near there. He doesn't have the speed to react to Superman. Someone stating his speed of thought is faster then lightning doesn't really translate into him actually showing he has those kind of reflexes.
Originally posted by JBL
LOL, Loki has held his own against Surtur
So, considering Surtur has thrown down with Odin, do you feel that Loki holding hiis own against Surtur is legitimate? Odin destroys galaxies as a side effect of his fights, and Surtur can thrown down with him.
and has Godlike reflexes,
No he doesn't.
the only way hes getting punched into space or torn in half is if he falls asleep. Loki has far too many ways to win this battle, hell, he even took on 3 thors at once and was winning, even making several copies of himself while battling Surtur and has hid his location from Odin and Hemidall , both whose senses make supermans look like a new born childs.
It's hard to take you seriously when you seem to feel Loki throwing down with Surtur is a legitimate feat.
Originally posted by SurturSuperman has never blitzed at the speed of light or thought. Now its pis when he is shown to fight against Surtur one on one? lol. Your earth benching feat has not one thing to do with punching power or speed since his blows are stated as " mountain busting ". Loki stood between surtur and destruction of all that is and even hurt Surtur with his blasts, he took on 3 thors at the same time. Loki does have Godlike reflexes like it or not.
Well, no Loki has not consistently shown he has super speed anywhere near there. He doesn't have the speed to react to Superman. Someone stating his speed of thought is faster then lightning doesn't really translate into him actually showing he has those kind of reflexes.So, considering Surtur has thrown down with Odin, do you feel that Loki holding hiis own against Surtur is legitimate? Odin destroys galaxies as a side effect of his fights, and Surtur can thrown down with him.
No he doesn't.
It's hard to take you seriously when you seem to feel Loki throwing down with Surtur is a legitimate feat.
Originally posted by SurturWhat's this talk of consistency when you're speaking of Superman blitzing characters?
Well, no Loki has not consistently shown he has super speed anywhere near there. He doesn't have the speed to react to Superman. Someone stating his speed of thought is faster then lightning doesn't really translate into him actually showing he has those kind of reflexes.
He does have the speed. Making up some shit about consistency doesn't mean anything. Actually, would you care to see how Loki does against opponents who appear invisible to the reader?
No, I can't imagine so.
Anyway, how fast they can be:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thor/thor21.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thor/thor22.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thor/thor06.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thor/thor07.jpg
Loki vs at least 9 of them:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Fights/LokivsDisir01SiegeLoki1.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Fights/LokivsDisir02.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Fights/LokivsDisir03.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Fights/LokivsDisir04.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Fights/LokivsDisir05.jpg
Loki is not slow. Loki like even Superman does get hit however, and Loki like Superman doesn't always use his speed. Though in Loki's case it seems more reflex than offensive. Which would be exactly the case here.
Whether Loki wins or loses here, it's not because he got speedblitzed because his speed doesn't count because "consistency"
Originally posted by deathslash
Loki has a very good chance of winning (with the magic, superior h2h skills, intangibility, super durability, and impressive strength.). please tell me what New 52 Doomsday has done.
facepalm
But since we're going by high end feats only, Superman survived attacks from characters and weapons which can destroy planets and kill 5-D imps.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Or he could resist it like he did against Lexus who was shown destroying planets and the blast would've killed Pax Galactica. A single member of Pax was strong enough to break a continent sized worldship apart in a single strike and match Superman in strength.http://i.imgur.com/xkfT3kF.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UNv1dRW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jOkb4GM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/podSZ5P.jpgAlthough he was temporarily KOED, he was unaware that the blast was magical to begin with.
http://i.imgur.com/NGyNqYp.jpg
And Lexus was powerful enough to destroy dozen of planets when he was just learning his powers.
http://i.imgur.com/TdhNlLG.jpg
So not seeing how its just that easy for John to beat Superman here when Superman can take blasts from planet busters.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman also takes several attacks from Multitude, magical weapon from 5th dimensional which killed Mxy's older form in one attack and destroyed 230 worlds instantly.http://i.imgur.com/tZcjkT0.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8MPLjbE.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/SVzfcLz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/GqSAju0.jpg
And he fought a 5-D imp for a whole issue while being greatly weakened by kryptonite.
Originally posted by abhilegend
While on the other hand Superman is fighting and defeating an evil 5-d imp.
But hurting Surtur is being called a feat here? What about Superman oneshot shattering Phantom Stranger's body? Or is only Loki is allowed to get high end feats here?
Originally posted by Surtur
Well, no Loki has not consistently shown he has super speed anywhere near there. He doesn't have the speed to react to Superman. Someone stating his speed of thought is faster then lightning doesn't really translate into him actually showing he has those kind of reflexes.So, considering Surtur has thrown down with Odin, do you feel that Loki holding hiis own against Surtur is legitimate? Odin destroys galaxies as a side effect of his fights, and Surtur can thrown down with him.
No he doesn't.
It's hard to take you seriously when you seem to feel Loki throwing down with Surtur is a legitimate feat.
Hahaha wtf?
On the first page you mention that Superman is too strong and fast because he can bench the earth and here you want to ignore Loki's speed feats because they are "not consistent"?
Are you being sarcastic or do you actually not see the huge double standard?
Let's compare how many times Superman has bench pressed a planet or speed blitzed anywhere near light speed and how many times Loki's has illustrated his god like reflexes or taken on a high end opponent?
Fyi, being able to fly at light speed is not evidence of a speed blitz. After all, Loki can at the speed of thought turn into his Astral form where he is so fast he can traverse entire dimensions instantly while examining their inhabitants, showing his awareness.
Originally posted by JBL
Superman has never blitzed at the speed of light or thought. Now its pis when he is shown to fight against Surtur one on one? lol.
Superman has shown his top speed is lightspeed..and also that he does at times use his speed to blitz, etc. So, if he is going all out why wouldn't he go his fastest? It doesn't make sense.
Your earth benching feat has not one thing to do with punching power or speed since his blows are stated as " mountain busting ".
Okay but benching a planet is way more then mountain busting. So I'd go with the actual feat instead of a contradictory statement.
Loki stood between surtur and destruction of all that is and even hurt Surtur with his blasts,
Again, why do you feel it is legitimate for Loki to take blasts from someone on the level of Surtur. I have to ask, how powerful do you really think Loki is?
Loki does have Godlike reflexes like it or not.
He really doesn't, he's never consistently shown that.
A certain poster has noted that Superman survived a magical attack from a being capable of destroying planets.
What said poster has failed to note however is that the attack that hit Superman was said to be able to destroy a moon and it knocked him the f*ck out.
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I'm on my phone so I'll leave the scan posting to someone else. Similar scenes have been dismissed as hyperbole. Not to mention Loki has channeled his magic into a blast that was said to be able to devastate a planet, and that's a weaker showing.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus On the first page you mention that Superman is too strong and fast because he can bench the earth and here you want to ignore Loki's speed feats because they are "not consistent"?
Well yeah I do. I'm not sure why you are even comparing the two. Loki has been around for FIVE DECADES. How can you compare that to a character only around 3 years?
QUOTE] Let's compare how many times Superman has bench pressed a planet or speed blitzed anywhere near light speed and how many times Loki's has illustrated his god like reflexes or taken on a high end opponent?[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry, but people are just applying things to Loki that aren't true. Superman hasn't shown it that much, but like I said..only been around 3 years. Loki has been around 5 decades, in that entire time he was never consistently portrayed as being anywhere near strong enough to take blasts from Surtur..nor was he, overall, portrayed as someone with "godlike" reflexes.
Not to mention Loki has channeled his magic into a blast that was said to be able to devastate a planet, and that's a weaker showing. [/B]
So did he ever actually devastate a planet then? Which comic does he devastate an entire planet? Do you have scans of that too?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
A certain poster has noted that Superman survived a magical attack from a being capable of destroying planets.What said poster has failed to note however is that the attack that hit Superman was said to be able to destroy a moon and it knocked him the f*ck out.
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I'm on my phone so I'll leave the scan posting to someone else. Similar scenes have been dismissed as hyperbole. Not to mention Loki has channeled his magic into a blast that was said to be able to devastate a planet, and that's a weaker showing.
And lulz @ this lowballing attempt. The planets were shown to be destroyed in both attempts. Superman survived an attack that oneshot killed a 5-D imp and destroyed 230 planets instantly. That's low too, I guess.
