Ancalagon and Prime Melkor vs Hst and DB

Ok so this is Prime Melkor, the star buster and Ancalagon, Most powerful Lotr Dragon besides Glaurung, vs Hst and DB.
I'm interested in your opinoins of this matter, so shoot. 🙂

Why hasn't anyone started debating?

Unless you accept the whole starbusting shit based on Dagor Dagorath legends then, Melkor would lose at SS Vegeta even

Though if you meant Part 1 DB (and not DBZ) then Melkor solos that

Ancalagon solos Bleach and gets rather far in OP

Ancalagon soloing Bleach is a laughable notion based on nothing in reality.

Ancalagon is big.

That's it. That is literally all he has going for him in the paragraph of material written by him.

Ancalagon is really powerful. He ****ed up an entire continent along with braking the three mountains of Thangorodrim
Quotes from Sillmarillion.
Before the rising of the sun Eärendil slew Ancalagon the Black, the mightiest of the dragon-host, and cast him from the sky; and he fell upon the towers of Thangorodrim, and they were broken in his ruin.

in his fall the Towers of Thangorodrim were thrown down

The destruction of Thangorodrim by the fall of Ancalagon.

In his fall Thangorodrim was broken.

In the Great Battle and the tumults of the fall of Thangorodrim there were mighty convulsions in the earth, and Beleriand was broken and laid waste...many lands sank beneath the waters of the Great Sea.

The mountains of Thangorodrim are referred to as 'Towers' by Tolkien heaps of times.

I think Ancalagon takes Naruto down easily, as that verse is the weakest of the Hst, then he has to go against Bleach, which is the fastest of the Hst, but I think he can take bleach down, then with the help of Melkor, he destroys One Piece, the verse with the most destructive power of the Hst

Naruto is by far the strongest of the HST and there are characters in Naruto that would kill Ancalagon with a single attack.

Also it's funny that you're acting like Ancalagon ****ed up a continent by himself. When there were countless other dragons and Maiar present.

Ancalagon is a *****.

One Piece easily has far more Continent busters then Naruto, in fact there's only one with a possible second in Naruto.
Bleach is by far the fastest of the Hst with OP and Naruto coming in second place. Sorry but Naruto is the weakest.

Did you even read this?

In the Great Battle and the tumults of the fall of Thangorodrim there were mighty convulsions in the earth, and Beleriand was broken and laid waste...many lands sank beneath the waters of the Great Sea.
As this says, Ancalagon did cause a fair amount of the destruction. In fact the destruction continued after that. It was his fall in that quote that caused many lands to sink

>One Piece
>Continent busters

When did that happen

Bleach isn't the fastest of the HST either

The sheer force of Ancalagon landing from flight caused nearby volcanoes to erupt violently.
He was the most powerful of the Dragons. and was the single most largest thing that ever walked Arda. He was made to content with the most powerful beings in ME

Yeah Bleach IS. Bleach has people moving in the mach hundreds. Naruto IS NOT IN THE MACH HUNDREDS.

Whitebeard is a continent buster, and there are like ten other guys that can split continents in half with punches and the like. I did a slight mistake before but eh meh

In fact Bleach has two continent (country) busters

Whitebeard in fact is supposed to be able to bust the world.

The Sage of Six Paths might be extremely powerful, but he hasn't busted anything. the Ten Tails is the only continent buster that Naruto has

When was Bleach in the Mach triple digit range? Best calcs I've seen for Bleach are Mach 23 to 30 or something

The continent splitting stuff was calced to be low end gigatons I believe. When was Whitebeard a continent buster?

Ok, and when did anyone in Bleach do anything country busting? :geg

Naruto is weaker then One Piece in destructive power, however I don't see anyone in OP beating the Sage and his ****ing mother either.
Bleach is easily the fastest, but is weaker then either Naruto and OP in destructive power. Naruto's moon feat is above any of the Hst's power feats, but you still cant use that to scale how much the Sage can bust

Originally posted by StealthRanger
When was Bleach in the Mach triple digit range? Best calcs I've seen for Bleach are Mach 23 to 30 or something

The continent splitting stuff was calced to be low end gigatons I believe. When was Whitebeard a continent buster?

Ok, and when did anyone in Bleach do anything country busting? :geg

SS arc Ichigo was calc at Mach 23 or so. Gin's Bankai was Mach 500 and Ichigo was able to react to it. Ulquiorra's Lanza, at its highest speed calc is around Mach 700 and its lowest at Mach 400 or something.

Yammaoto is a continent buster with just his Bankai's presence. And Ulquiorra's Lanza is country level.

I'll give you the Whitebeard thing soon

Originally posted by Kaldin
Naruto is weaker then One Piece in destructive power, however I don't see anyone in OP beating the Sage and his ****ing mother either.

Nope, Naruto blows the other 2 HST verses out of the water as things stand

Bleach is easily the fastest, but is weaker then either Naruto and OP in destructive power.

One Piece was MHS recently afaik (Mach 300 or something last I was aware) and so was Naruto

Bleach on the other hand is still stuck at Mach 30 or so. You can thank Kubo who cares **** all about backgrounds and focuses on speedblitz/faster than the eye can see tropes

Naruto's moon feat is above any of the Hst's power feats, but you still cant use that to scale how much the Sage can bust

Why not? If you can generate energy, you can use it

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Nope, Naruto blows the other 2 HST verses out of the water as things stand

One Piece was MHS recently afaik (Mach 300 or something last I was aware) and so was Naruto

Bleach on the other hand is still stuck at Mach 30 or so. You can thank Kubo who cares **** all about backgrounds and focuses on speedblitz/faster than the eye can see tropes

Why not? If you can generate energy, you can use it

Read what I putt above. Gin's Bankai was stated to be Mach 500, and Ichigo reacted to it.
And no, Naruto only has ONE Continent buster with a possible second.
Current Naruto's best speed feats have been compared with Ichigo's SS arc feats LOL

Originally posted by Kaldin
SS arc Ichigo was calc at Mach 23 or so. Gin's Bankai was Mach 500 and Ichigo was able to react to it. Ulquiorra's Lanza, at its highest speed calc is around Mach 700 and its lowest at Mach 400 or something.

Yammaoto is a continent buster with just his Bankai's presence. And Ulquiorra's Lanza is country level.

I'll give you the Whitebeard thing soon

Gin admitted to making the whole Mach 500 thing up IIRC

Where are these calcs that put Bleach at that level :geg

Yamamato was low end country busting by self destructing, said calc is based on hype (destroying Soul Society by exploding)

Pretty sure the country level Lanza was discussed here and soundly defeated

In fact, Starrk crossed a heck of an amount of distance with his Las Noches feet, that feet alone is in the Mach hundreds