Only interesting, not relevant. I'm merely curious to how big this Dragon is if simply falling could sink an island, scaling for imaginations sake.
Ahh so not really island sinking. Then again, could be fatigue but I don't think they literally mean he fell and cause that. More like all of that happened during the hreat battle, which ended when he was defeated.
Edit: Lol multi small continental?
Originally posted by KadanYou're right, I'm sure all the other dragons patiently watched as a bunch of eagles and an elf riding a boat swarmed Ancalagon, rather than helping him fight.
oops, I didn't notice that part in the book, but it is there now that I'm skimming through it. I never said there weren't any dragons there though, I said that Earendil and the eagles only fought Ancalagon, Since Ancalagon was the only thing mentioned in the quote, none of the other dragons were.'In the Great Battle and the tumults of the fall of Thangorodrim there were mighty convulsions in the earth, and Beleriand was broken and laid waste...many lands sank beneath the waters of the Great Sea.'
Notice, 'And The Tumults Of The Fall of Thangorodrim There Were Mighty Convulsions In The Earth, And Beleriand Was Broken And Laid Waste...Many Lands Sank Beneath The Waters Of The Great Sea'
No but sarcasm aside that's stupid. Using your logic I could point out that only Earendil is mentioned as having slain Ancalagon.
What ****ing book?
Originally posted by KadanNo it doesn't, the Juubi isn't a "multiple Naruto continent buster", its a multiple IRL continent buster.
Juubi's a small country buster in his first form and a multi small country buster in his second, stop wanking.And it does matter because Beleriand is larger then Naruto continent by a large amount.
Prove Beleriand is bigger than Naruto's continent, lol.
Originally posted by BloodRain
Only interesting, not relevant. I'm merely curious to how big this Dragon is if simply falling could sink an island, scaling for imaginations sake.Ahh so not really island sinking. Then again, could be fatigue but I don't think they literally mean he fell and cause that. More like all of that happened during the hreat battle, which ended when he was defeated.
Edit: Lol multi small continental?
Beleriand is larger then an island. In the Great Battle and the tumults of the fall of Thangorodrim there were mighty convulsions in the earth, and Beleriand was broken and laid waste...many lands sank beneath the waters of the Great Sea.
Notice 'And the tumults of the fall of Thangorodrim there were mighty convulsions in the earth, and Beleriand was broken and laid waste...many lands sank beneath the waters of the Great Sea'
See the fall of Thangorodrim.
Originally posted by NemeBro
You're right, I'm sure all the other dragons patiently watched as a bunch of eagles and an elf riding a boat swarmed Ancalagon, rather than helping him fight.No but sarcasm aside that's stupid. Using your logic I could point out that only Earendil is mentioned as having slain Ancalagon.
What ****ing book?
True.
Its in the Silmarillion. Want me to post the page number?
Edit may have gotten it wrong, it might be in Book of Lost Tales
Originally posted by BloodRainI'd say the latter, more or less. The Silmarillion itself makes no mention of Ancalagon's fall destroying more than the three mountains.
Neme you know your stuff here. Was it the gravity-fall itself that created that quote, or is that the events of the battle before the defeat-fall?
"Thus, an end was made of the power of Angband in the North, and the evil realm was brought to naught; and out of hope into the light of day, and they looked upon a world that was changed. For so great was the fury of those adversaries that the northern regions of the western world were rent asunder, and the sea roared in through many chasms, and there was confusion and great noise; and rivers perished or found new pathsm and the valleys were upheaved and the hills trod down; and Sirion (a river) was no more."
This is what my copy of The Silmarillion says, and note it attributes the destruction to no one being, but "adversaries". This leads me to believe that it was a prolonged effect, done by many individuals. Indeed, Ancalagon was but one of the mighty creatures who fought in the War of Wrath (And probably the most powerful). There were Maiar (Demigods), powerful First Age Elves (Some like Galadriel are proven town busters), and other dragons there.
Ancalagon is really big and the most powerful dragon to ever exist, sure, but he is nothing compared to the Juubi.
Originally posted by NemeBro
I'd say the latter, more or less. The Silmarillion itself makes no mention of Ancalagon's fall destroying more than the three mountains."Thus, an end was made of the power of Angband in the North, and the evil realm was brought to naught; and out of hope into the light of day, and they looked upon a world that was changed. For so great was the fury of those adversaries that the northern regions of the western world were rent asunder, and the sea roared in through many chasms, and there was confusion and great noise; and rivers perished or found new pathsm and the valleys were upheaved and the hills trod down; and Sirion (a river) was no more."
This is what my copy of The Silmarillion says, and note it attributes the destruction to no one being, but "adversaries". This leads me to believe that it was a prolonged effect, done by many individuals. Indeed, Ancalagon was but one of the mighty creatures who fought in the War of Wrath (And probably the most powerful). There were Maiar (Demigods), powerful First Age Elves (Some like Galadriel are proven town busters), and other dragons there.
Ancalagon is really big and the most powerful dragon to ever exist, sure, but he is nothing compared to the Juubi.
Mostly right, but not with the latter.
However there is still this to worry about. In the Great Battle and the tumults of the fall of Thangorodrim there were mighty convulsions in the earth, and Beleriand was broken and laid waste...many lands sank beneath the waters of the Great Sea.
I can't find this, I saved this quote on my computer ages ago, but I can't find its original source.
Guess what StealthRanger and everyone, its your lucky day. I found a calc on the NarutoForums for bleach, the speed calc is for Stark. http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=18051&page=4
It puts him at Mach 265.38. 😛
And guess what, that feat was casual for Stark, and he did it in base.
This calc doesn't even go on the idea of LN being Island to country sized.
Didn't you say something about Bleach only being Mach 20 to 30? Lol. 🙂
Originally posted by StealthRanger
>calc that was disregarded in 2012Bleach is slow
Bleach is a non factor
Where's your proof? Oh wait, you don't give proof to back your claims. That calc is quite reasonable, I seriously don't see what you have against Bleach, but you certainly are not very skilled at debating, so I don't ****ing care if you say, its slow, since you have no proof.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
To be fair, just posting a calc someone else did that may not even be valid isn't really debating.
Not debating?
StealthRanger, never posts anything to validate his arguments, which is not debating.
SR clearly does not like Bleach, as he is completely against it.
Now let me just ask everyone here a question.
How in the world will Naruto stand against Aizen's Kyoka Suigetsu?
It's illusionary powers is above anything Naruto can dish out besides IT.