Ancalagon and Prime Melkor vs Hst and DB

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Gin admitted to making the whole Mach 500 thing up IIRC

Where are these calcs that put Bleach at that level :geg

Yamamato was low end country busting by self destructing, said calc is based on hype (destroying Soul Society by exploding)

Pretty sure the country level Lanza was discussed here and soundly defeated

NO.. Gin admitted to having lied to Aizen about his Bankai, he never said he lied to Ichigo, and anyway his Bankai was so fast no one ever questioned it .

Lanza's speed was never discussed here properly. and anyway, it is in the Mach hundreds.

the fact of the matter is, is that Naruto's best feats are hype to lol.

The Bleach calcs are in heaps of places lol.

H2 Hallow Ichigo reacted to Lanza at close range. Then later on Ichigo fights a much more powerful version of his inner hallow who was fused with old man Zangetsu who was in his own Bankai.
And Ichigo kept up with them before he went into his Dangai form.Oh wait there is also Ichigo pushing Aizen out of Karakura town and into a canyon within like a second, that is easily in the mach hundreds.

Note this is all before Bleach's time skip

Originally posted by Kaldin
One Piece easily has far more Continent busters then Naruto, in fact there's only one with a possible second in Naruto.

The Juubi in its weakest form is a continent buster.

There are several characters stronger than that now.

Bleach is by far the fastest of the Hst with OP and Naruto coming in second place. Sorry but Naruto is the weakest.

Bleach is slow.

Did you even read this?

In the Great Battle and the tumults of the fall of Thangorodrim there were mighty convulsions in the earth, and Beleriand was broken and laid waste...many lands sank beneath the waters of the Great Sea.
As this says, Ancalagon did cause a fair amount of the destruction. In fact the destruction continued after that. It was his fall in that quote that caused many lands to sink

So he's big.

Glad you agree size is all Ancalagon has.

Juubi one-shots him.

Originally posted by NemeBro
The Juubi in its weakest form is a continent buster.

There are several characters stronger than that now.

Bleach is slow.

So he's big.

Glad you agree size is all Ancalagon has.

Juubi one-shots him.

Sorry But NOPE.

Juubi is not a continent buster in his weakest form lol.

Bleach is not slow, its the FASTEST OF THE HST! Seriously, stop downplaying.

Ancalagon SHITS ON THE JUUBI! He can step on the Juubi. No matter how you put it, if they kill Ancalagon, he will just fall on his enemies, and they will die

Ancalagon's Fire Breath is the most powerful of all Dragon's. Him simply breathing could kill almost all of his enemies

Originally posted by Kaldin
Sorry But NOPE.

Juubi is not a continent buster in his weakest form lol.

Bleach is not slow, its the FASTEST OF THE HST! Seriously, stop downplaying.

Ancalagon SHITS ON THE JUUBI! He can step on the Juubi. No matter how you put it, if they kill Ancalagon, he will just fall on his enemies, and they will die

Based on what is it the fastest of the HST?

Ancalagon gets one-shot by anything second form or stronger.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Sorry you're right. In its second form it's a multi-continent buster. Claim still stands.

Based on what is it the fastest of the HST?

Ancalagon gets one-shot by anything second form or stronger.

Mostly correct. 🙂

Bleach has speed feets that are Mach 500 (Gin) and Mach 700 (Lanza)

Starrk's LN speed feat is easily beyond any speed OP or Naruto has shown.

Seriously Starrk crossed the distance of a country within a instant.
Ancalagon's body alone has Continent destruction, he was dead when he caused all of that damage. A live Ancalagon is shitting on the Hst.
Seriously, Ancalagon's fire can most likely continent bust. He tanks Jubbi's attacks.

The continents in Naruto are small. Juubi may be a Multi as you said, which I mostly agree with, but the fact is, is that Naruto continents are Small.

Beleriand dwarfs every landmass known in Naruto

In fact, Lanza's Mach 700 is low end

Starrk's LN feat is comparable to Lanza's.

Last time I checked. Naruto's best Mach calc's, was when people were overplaying it, and it still was only comparable to OP

In fact, no landmass in OP besides the Main Land comes close to Beleriand.

Is there really anything to say Juubi in his weakest form is a continent buster? Because all I remember is seeing island level attacks

DO you guys really want me to find the calc's on how large LN is? Then the obvious calc for Starrk's speed feat and Lanza?

By Cid, from http://lounge.moviecodec.com/vs-general/las-noches-size-158036/
It all depends on which gate they started at... Average walking distance (you can’t prove they would WALK faster than average) would be around 215 miles in 72 hours. Then you have to deduct roughly 18 hours for sleep. (assuming they only got about 6 hours a day) And a little over an hour a day for breaks and whatnot (just to be fair) and you’d come up with around 50 hours for walking. According to Google Maps, you can walk 150 miles in 50 hours. That’s roughly 3 miles per hour.

Now, if I recall correctly, they were on the corner of Los Noches when Neil pointed and said the closest gate is that way. We’ll just assume for consistency that there would be a gate in the middle of each wall. (you really don’t want there to be more than one gate because it really just makes it much larger) She’d be pointing to the short end of Los Noches and basically saying the middle of the wall is 150 miles that way. So you have 300 miles for the total length of the short side.

http://i3.mangapanda.com/bleach/351/bleach-2402627.jpg

Just judging by this panel, Los Noches' long side is at least 3 times longer than the short. So basically the long side is around 900 miles.

Giving you a square footage of roughly 270,000 miles. Or roughly 434,000 km. So basically the size of Texas. Even if you cut down drastically... Giving them only 25 hours of walking instead of 50, it’s still half the size of Texas. You’re looking at a huge structure no matter how you slice it.

End of Cid's post

And Lanza dwarfed Las Noches. By a huge amount. Its at least 4 times larger then LN, if not more, you could probably stack up four LN's on top of each other and get the height of Lanza.......Do the math....unless I have to.

The fact of the matter is, destruction level aside, Lanza is incredibly fast.
Lanza, which was fired somewhat from the middle of Las Noches. Please note that it’s impossible to tell where they are, but it’s definitely still near the spot where that shockwave hit. However, they were definitely still in Las Noches circumference.

So Lanza travelled all of this:
http://i3.mangareader.net/bleach/351/bleach-2402625.jpg
http://i3.mangareader.net/bleach/351/bleach-2402627.jpg

In a time-spam this short:

http://i20.mangareader.net/bleach/351/bleach-2402629.jpg

No matter how you put it, the max number of seconds it would have taken would be about 4.
That is astoundingly FAST

It would most defiantly be Mach 700 if not higher

And then there's Starrk's LN speed feat, and also H2 Ichigo DODGING Lanza at close range

This is what Zack said on http://lounge.moviecodec.com/vs-general/the-speed-of-lanza-del-relampago-158325/
If the short side is 300 miles, and Lanza travelled at least double that distance, then it should be about Mach 705.6(Low end) to 2823.4 (High End), based off of those numbers.

Anyway, Bleach has been in the Mach double digits since the SS arc. Its no joke that they are in the Triple digits during the next few arcs before the time skip.

>claims Bleach as triple digits Mach
>uses MovieCodec 'calcs'

Oh god, please don't tell me you're from MovieCodec :lmao