Frieza attacks Super Saiyan 3 Goku/Super Saiyan 2 Gohan

Originally posted by Nevan
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First form Cell tanked Piccolo's strongest attack without a scratch. Frieza could attack them for the rest of their lives and they would barely notice he's there.

Hes asking if they can tank pb's

Originally posted by yungz22
Hes asking if they can tank pb's

I'm asking if FIRST FORM Frieza could kill/hurt them. You know, the same Frieza that was using only .025% of his power during the time he destroyed Namek.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm asking if FIRST FORM Frieza could kill/hurt them. You know, the same Frieza that was using only .025% of his power during the time he destroyed Namek.

No, Goku and Gohan would laugh.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm asking if FIRST FORM Frieza could kill/hurt them. You know, the same Frieza that was using only .025% of his power during the time he destroyed Namek.

Didn't mean to say Namek...meant to say when he destroyed planet Vegeta.

Originally posted by carver9
Terrible argument. It was never stated that the blast that damaged cell was 'only' planet busting. Of course Earth would get destroyed...that's the planet they are fighting on but that still doesn't limit the power of their blast to Earth level. What do you expect to get destroyed during their fight? Limiting their power only to planetary just because Earth was destroyed as a side affect is clearly wrong.

I don't have the scan. It was stated during the time they first landed on earth.

When?

Originally posted by Nevan
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First form Cell tanked Piccolo's strongest attack without a scratch. Frieza could attack them for the rest of their lives and they would barely notice he's there.

I'm trying to see what people in the anime section base their arguments off of. It seems like 95% of the people in this section of the forum debate using collateral damage and calculations and I'm trying to understand why.

Question to anyone that is reading this post. Piccolo casual blast that destroyed the moon; is it more powerful than all of the attacks Cell hit ascended Goku with?

Originally posted by BloodRain
Trunks said if Vegeta made it too powerful the Earth would be destroyed, so he lessened it. Goku's can be argued, but the same Cell who boasted solar system busting strangely enough just said the planet would bite it. Shall we keep in mind that iyo S2 characters are star system, when even S2 Gohan would have died from an attack nowhere near.

When?

And he was right, the blast would have destroyed earth just like any other DBZ character blast would have if they went all out. That doesn't limit their blasting power or durability to planetary though...that just shows us that Trunks could have killed Cell with his own power.

What proof do you have that Goku or Cell could tank moon busting power? Do you think Master Roshi could kill a Super Saiyan (if you say no, explain why)?

Originally posted by carver9
And he was right, the blast would have destroyed earth just like any other DBZ character blast would have if they went all out. That doesn't limit their blasting power or durability to planetary though...that just shows us that Trunks could have killed Cell with his own power.

What proof do you have that Goku or Cell could tank moon busting power? Do you think Master Roshi could kill a Super Saiyan (if you say no, explain why)?

How would you measure attack potency

Originally posted by yungz22
How would you measure attack potency

By the people that is being damaged. It doesnt always have to be about collateral damage, especially when it comes to DBZ characters who have 100% control of their ki.

Example. Thanos survived a planet exploding on him but yet, Odin damaged him to the point that he struggled to get up with a blast that didn't even destroy the buildings in Asgard. I can go on with this all day. Collateral damage doesn't mean a thing, especially when it comes to DBZ characters.

Originally posted by carver9
By the people that is being damaged. It doesnt always have to be about collateral damage, especially when it comes to DBZ characters who have 100% control of their ki.

Example. Thanos survived a planet exploding on him but yet, Odin damaged him to the point that he struggled to get up with a blast that didn't even destroy the buildings in Asgard. I can go on with this all day. Collateral damage doesn't mean a thing, especially when it comes to DBZ characters.

Odin uses magic which is an entire different entity.

And thanos' gauntlet allowed him to survive

Originally posted by yungz22
Odin uses magic which is an entire different entity.

And thanos' gauntlet allowed him to survive

Lol...what does that have to do with anything? Especially Since Odin was clearly blasting him. Also Galactus went all out on Thanos shields and didn't even destroy the room that they were fighting in. He even states that he is taxing himself when he was blasting Thanos but at his weakest (Galactus) he was able to shed a Galaxy. It's not always about collateral damage.

No matter what you say nobody tanks pb's in dbz they always either deflect them or run away that fact cant be argued. Everything else is just speculation

Originally posted by yungz22
No matter what you say nobody tanks pb's in dbz they always either deflect them or run away that fact cant be argued. Everything else is just speculation

So Saiyan Saga Vegeta could kill a Super Saiyan 3 as well. Also, no one in DBZ has tanked moon busting either. Can Roshi kill a Super Saiyan?

Originally posted by carver9
So Saiyan Saga Vegeta could kill a Super Saiyan 3 as well. Also, no one in DBZ has tanked moon busting either. Can Roshi kill a Super Saiyan?

Considering that it doesnt take much energy to destroy thr moon in the db universe they probably can tak those. The moon is 81x smaller than the earth

Originally posted by yungz22
Considering that it doesnt take much energy to destroy thr moon in the db universe they probably can tak those. The moon is 81x smaller than the earth

And what are you basing this off of?

Originally posted by carver9
And what are you basing this off of?

In surface area it is 7% of earths

In Volume it is 2% of earths

In mass earth is 81 times larger

http://www.universetoday.com/20489/moon-compared-to-earth/ coulda sworn i showed you this before

This has gotten so silly.

No it wont hurt Goku and Gohan, what's the trouble understanding this?

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
This has gotten so silly.

No it wont hurt Goku and Gohan, what's the trouble understanding this?

Can you show one of them tanking a pb?

All we know for sure is there reactions to them which is either to run away or deflect the attack.

Those who didnt move got hurt and had they not had regen the one that took pb's (cell and buu) would have died. And both them took damage from attacks from ppl who were weaker.

Originally posted by yungz22
In surface area it is 7% of earths

In Volume it is 2% of earths

In mass earth is 81 times larger

http://www.universetoday.com/20489/moon-compared-to-earth/ coulda sworn i showed you this before

So what proof do you have that a DBZ character can withstand that amount of power?

Originally posted by carver9
So what proof do you have that a DBZ character can withstand that amount of power?

We dont know for sure because there hasnt been any statements givin about that subject.

But by speculation id say they can tank it because it take a considerably less amount of power to destroy it because its so small