Originally posted by yungz22
We dont know for sure because there hasnt been any statements givin about that subject.But by speculation id say they can tank it because it take a considerably less amount of power to destroy it because its so small
The moon is humongous though and Heralds usually can't withstand that amount of power without significant damage. So again, what proof do you have that Goku can withstand a moon busting power?
Originally posted by carver9
Again...what showing are you using that states they can withstand moon busting power? This isnt a guessing game. Do you have anything proving they can withstand that type of power?
All we can do is speculate ive said that in my first post in this thread.
One could point out the effort as a means to tell if alot of power is needed. For example piccolo busted the moon with very little effort and a casual ki blast. That same saga vegeta took a much larger charge time when it came to blowing up the earth.
That is why i think they can tank moon busters.
Pb's are a different story because like i said thry always either deflect it or run away and those that decided to stay there took fatal damage and if it werent for regen they would have died
Originally posted by yungz22
All we can do is speculate ive said that in my first post in this thread.One could point out the effort as a means to tell if alot of power is needed. For example piccolo busted the moon with very little effort and a casual ki blast. That same saga vegeta took a much larger charge time when it came to blowing up the earth.
That is why i think they can tank moon busters.
Pb's are a different story because like i said thry always either deflect it or run away and those that decided to stay there took fatal damage and if it werent for regen they would have died
So it depends on how casually they can generate power? Kid Buu first attack was a planet buster and he casually conjured it. Does that change your answer? If not...what proof do you have that they can withstand moon busting power?
Also, when did they run from a planet destroying attack? Are you talking about the kid Buu attack.? Are you saying that Kid Buu first planet busting Ki blast was at the same power as his second blast that destroyed earth?
Originally posted by carver9
So it depends on how casually they can generate power? Kid Buu first attack was a planet buster and he casually conjured it. Does that change your answer? If not...what proof do you have that they can withstand moon busting power?Also, when did they run from a planet destroying attack? Are you talking about the kid Buu attack.? Are you saying that Kid Buu first planet busting Ki blast was at the same power as his second blast that destroyed earth?
Your missing the point i never said anything of what your saying im saying. And ive already told you about kid buu's blasts in previous posts and what you just said was no where even close to that
Weve never seen anyone get attacked by a moon buster or at least nobody said it was one so we dont know ive already said that....
Still all in alll we have seen them react to pb's and they always either deflect, run away or take considerable damage.
Moons are nowhere near the size of the earth so it would make sense that they take less energy to destroy. This makes it easier to believe that they can withstand it. You have to realize that piccolo at that time probably had a power level of at least 1000 maybe even less because radditz had him in the 300s. Roshi obviosly was way weaker than that so it would make sense that they would be able to tank those.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Freeza withstood a planet blowing up and he was cut in half and almost dead before the planet blew up, remember?
I'm one of the peeps that believes these individuals can survive planet busting power...I'm asking him because I was waiting for an answer that he just gave me.
Originally posted by yungz22
Your missing the point i never said anything of what your saying im saying. And ive already told you about kid buu's blasts in previous posts and what you just said was no where even close to thatWeve never seen anyone get attacked by a moon buster or at least nobody said it was one so we dont know ive already said that....
Still all in alll we have seen them react to pb's and they always either deflect, run away or take considerable damage.
Moons are nowhere near the size of the earth so it would make sense that they take less energy to destroy. This makes it easier to believe that they can withstand it. You have to realize that piccolo at that time probably had a power level of at least 1000 maybe even less because radditz had him in the 300s. Roshi obviosly was way weaker than that so it would make sense that they would be able to tank those.
There you go, you brought up exactly what I want to hear. You believe they can survive a moon buster because of the said characters being weaker (due to power levels)?
Originally posted by carver9
Again...what showing are you using that states they can withstand moon busting power? This isnt a guessing game. Do you have anything proving they can withstand that type of power?
Dun-dun-dunna!! Gogeta, to the rescue!
No but seriously, and I hate to admit this, but you're making Yungz look intelligent right now Carver...
Even Raditz can tank moon busters casually, as I've just so solemnly proven.
Originally posted by carver9Limits when Trunks says it'll destroy the Earth until later admitting it would have if Vegeta didn't reduce it. And again, Cells suicide.
And he was right, the blast would have destroyed earth just like any other DBZ character blast would have if they went all out. That doesn't limit their blasting power or durability to planetary though...that just shows us that Trunks could have killed Cell with his own power.What proof do you have that Goku or Cell could tank moon busting power? Do you think Master Roshi could kill a Super Saiyan (if you say no, explain why)?
Originally posted by SSJGGogetaDun-dun-dunna!! Gogeta, to the rescue!
No but seriously, and I hate to admit this, but you're making Yungz look intelligent right now Carver...
Even Raditz can tank moon busters casually, as I've just so solemnly proven.
Read above... I know that DBZ character can tank moon busting attacks.
Originally posted by BloodRain
Limits when Trunks says it'll destroy the Earth until later admitting it would have if Vegeta didn't reduce it. And again, Cells suicide.
Why wouldn't it destroy Earth since again, that is where the fight is taking place. What else would it destroy besides Earth. What we do know is that weaker characters can't hurt more powerful character (have to be weaker by a certain degree) and Saiyan Saga Vegeta along with first form Frieza isn't killing beings that is millions, if not billions of times more powerful than him with just the tip of his finger (and a fraction of his power that is below even 1% of his true power). Think my friend. I know it's hard for you to say that a DBZ character can withstand planet busting but there's a time when you just have to use common sense my friend.
Originally posted by carver9
Yes...He brought up the point i was looking for. He said that they can withstand moon busting due to having a higher power level which means...
The power needed to moon bust is significantly less than the power needed to bust the earth.
So idk why this is relavant that doesnt mean they can tank pb's
Originally posted by carver9
Why wouldn't it destroy Earth since again, that is where the fight is taking place. What else would it destroy besides Earth. What we do know is that weaker characters can't hurt more powerful character (have to be weaker by a certain degree) and Saiyan Saga Vegeta along with first form Frieza isn't killing beings that is millions, if not billions of times more powerful than him with just the tip of his finger (and a fraction of his power that is below even 1% of his true power). Think my friend. I know it's hard for you to say that a DBZ character can withstand planet busting but there's a time when you just have to use common sense my friend.
And try not to get all human. Tbh I thought they could take PB, even tank, energy blasts until this thread made me think about it some more.
You're all forgetting the casual feats presented by even low-tiers in DBZ.
Such as Recoome tanking the full brunt of a planet busting attack(albeit with quite some damage sustained), and being able to casually dominate those same powers afterwords.
Or Frieza simply kicking an even stronger multi-planet buster away.
Or even better, Frieza tanking a planet capacity blast, as well as a planetary explosion, after being bisected and beaten to near death, and still surviving.
Or Vegeta and 18 CASUALLY throwing around and tanking planet busting attacks like they're nothing.
Once we get into solar system busting and tanking that Cell level characters are capable of, this becomes a stupid debate. Not to mention that he can solar system bust with a dense attack like a kamehameha wave. That's like blowing up a sky-scraper with a sniper rifle. Cell can easily be scaled to small galaxy level tanking/busting, and Kid Buu even further with a single attack.
I swear, it's like you don't even know what DBZ is.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
You're all forgetting the casual feats presented by even low-tiers in DBZ.Such as Recoome tanking the full brunt of a planet busting attack(albeit with quite some damage sustained), and being able to casually dominate those same powers afterwords.
Or Frieza simply kicking an even stronger multi-planet buster away.
Or even better, Frieza tanking a planet capacity blast, as well as a planetary explosion, after being bisected and beaten to near death, and still surviving.
Or Vegeta and 18 CASUALLY throwing around and tanking planet busting attacks like they're nothing.
Once we get into solar system busting and tanking that Cell level characters are capable of, this becomes a stupid debate. Not to mention that he can solar system bust with a dense attack like a kamehameha wave. That's like blowing up a sky-scraper with a sniper rifle. Cell can easily be scaled to small galaxy level tanking/busting, and Kid Buu even further with a single attack.
I swear, it's like you don't even know what DBZ is.
How do you know those were pb's? Was it stated