It's sad that people can't grasp the difference between Quicksilver and Superman's combat speed (COMBAT SPEED, not flight). He couldn't dodge a train that was coming at him at slow mo. He couldn't dodge bullets or a laser that was shot at him. He couldn't tag Faora, when humans in the diner was able to see their fight. He couldn't dodge a robot slashing at him. Quicksilver could have taken a poop while reading a book and would have still had time to dodge all of that stuff.
Originally posted by carver9Superman wins. 👆
It's sad that people can't grasp the difference between Quicksilver and Superman's combat speed (COMBAT SPEED, not flight). He couldn't dodge a train that was coming at him at slow mo. He couldn't dodge bullets or a laser that was shot at him. He couldn't tag Faora, when humans in the diner was able to see their fight. He couldn't dodge a robot slashing at him. Quicksilver could have taken a poop while reading a book and would have still had time to dodge all of that stuff.
Originally posted by carver9
It's sad that people can't grasp the difference between Quicksilver and Superman's combat speed (COMBAT SPEED, not flight). He couldn't dodge a train that was coming at him at slow mo. He couldn't dodge bullets or a laser that was shot at him. He couldn't tag Faora, when humans in the diner was able to see their fight. He couldn't dodge a robot slashing at him. Quicksilver could have taken a poop while reading a book and would have still had time to dodge all of that stuff.
Quit stealing my lines carver. I was the one that taught you the difference cause you didn't know till I schooled you on it.
Why would you dodge bullets or lasers if you know they can't do much. That's the point of him being a "Superman?"
Originally posted by quanchi112
So if he can't move instantly and react that isn't combat speed. This isn't a race.
It is, however, sufficient to indicate that should he consider the gnat that is QS worthy of his attention, he will have no problems swatting him.
He gets his neck broken because Zod is an inept villain. Jor el stomped him far easier and did to have to kill him.
What are you trying to argue here? That if QS actually dared to engage in hand-to-hand combat with Supes he would do any better than Zod? 😆
Superman doesn't have time to set anything on fire since before he can shoot hv or move QS is off manipulating him.
Manipulating him? I see you gave up on the idea of QS being able to deflect Supes' punches - good boy! Now you have resorted to the more generic 'manipulating him'. What's really pathetic is that your only idea was that QS would somehow be able to move Supes' arms to make him hit himself, and once I disproved that, you ran out of ideas. Like your character, you're overmatched and outclassed, all you can think of is 'he will win somehow, even though I have no idea how!'
Hv never really burns or sets environments ablaze. Quit making things up.
😕 Are you actually trying to claim that HV isn't hot? 😆
Your horrible argument is since Usain Bolt runs faster a 100 yard dash he is quicker in a fight than Bruce Lee.Awful.
Wow. Just... wow. So now you have gone from claiming that Supes won't be able to touch QS because QS is that much faster, to claiming that Supes will lose because he is faster than QS! 😆
Shame, really - but then this match-up was a joke from the beginning, in more ways than one. 😉
Originally posted by carver9Even if QS is faster he is still outmatched. There is literally nothing he can do to Superman. You can try and claim the kinetic force behind QS's speed will get the job done, but no. It only makes me chuckle watching you argue for the superior speedster against the superior tank. What with you arguing about how Superman's speed is inconsequential against Hulk for years. its kind of cute actually. Like watching a kid learn not to poke fans.
It's sad that people can't grasp the difference between Quicksilver and Superman's combat speed (COMBAT SPEED, not flight). He couldn't dodge a train that was coming at him at slow mo. He couldn't dodge bullets or a laser that was shot at him. He couldn't tag Faora, when humans in the diner was able to see their fight. He couldn't dodge a robot slashing at him. Quicksilver could have taken a poop while reading a book and would have still had time to dodge all of that stuff.
GTFO bro. QS loses. At best he stalemates until Superman gets annoyed and leaves.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Your horrible argument is since Usain Bolt runs faster a 100 yard dash he is quicker in a fight than Bruce Lee.Awful.
Something about this statement has been bothering me and I finally figured it out. Bolt and Lee are both human so both can be hurt by a punch. As Superman can't be hurt by one of QS's punches, this argument is nonsensical. The only person who will be hurt if QS punches Supes is QS himself.
So we're back to the fact that nothing that QS can do you have thought of so far can hurt Supes, except for relocating the fight to a world where Supes is powerless, which is the same as admitting QS can't beat Supes as he is. 😄
(Which is basically the same thing as Zack Fair is saying, I believe) 😉
Originally posted by Dreampanther
Something about this statement has been bothering me and I finally figured it out. Bolt and Lee are both human so both can be hurt by a punch. As Superman can't be hurt by one of QS's punches, this argument is nonsensical. The only person who will be hurt if QS punches Supes is QS himself.So we're back to the fact that nothing that QS can do you have thought of so far can hurt Supes, except for relocating the fight to a world where Supes is powerless, which is the same as admitting QS can't beat Supes as he is. 😄
(Which is basically the same thing as Zack Fair is saying, I believe) 😉
QS could find a way to melt Superman. Superman is the man of Steel, and steel's melting point is 1370 degrees celcius, hmmmm.
Anyways, point is QS has the luxury of time and invulnerability on his side. He's too fast for supes to touch. So given that amount of time and general knowledge of supes, QS had the chance to find ways to hurt Supes. Superman can't do anything to QS
Originally posted by Firefly218
QS could find a way to melt Superman. Superman is the man of Steel, and steel's melting point is 1370 degrees celcius, hmmmm.Anyways, point is QS has the luxury of time and invulnerability on his side. He's too fast for supes to touch. So given that amount of time and general knowledge of supes, QS had the chance to find ways to hurt Supes. Superman can't do anything to QS
Temperatures on an oil rig fire have been measured in excess of 1 600 degrees Celsius, yet Superman didn't look too concerned when he saved all those guys from the oil rig fire. Oil rig fires
Holy sh!t, QS now has invulnerability?! 😱 Wow, that's amazing!
😆 😆 😆
Originally posted by NemeBroSuperman traveled a fourth to a third of the Earth's circumference in moments. He is faster, my son.
You mean he can fly faster than Quicksilver can run.
But from the feats given my guess would be that time definitely moves considerably slower for QS than it does for Superman. I would also reasonably guess that QS runs, dodges, kicks and punches considerably faster than Superman, hence could dance around him for a long while.
QS may even pack enough Kinetic Energy at that speed to make Superman blink. But he won't be able to take Supes down, and will eventually get tagged. (But that Might take a day or so)
Originally posted by quanchi112We see here Superman powerless to save his own stepfather due to being too slow as well as too scared to disobey his father. He didn't want to reveal his powers yet QS could have save him and taken a shit before anyone even realized what happened.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yh4jzS8hudQ
Watch Superman get upset while he fails his own stepfather due to being super slow.
😂
STOP TROLLING
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Even if QS is faster he is still outmatched. There is literally nothing he can do to Superman. You can try and claim the kinetic force behind QS's speed will get the job done, but no. It only makes me chuckle watching you argue for the superior speedster against the superior tank. What with you arguing about how Superman's speed is inconsequential against Hulk for years. its kind of cute actually. Like watching a kid learn not to poke fans.GTFO bro. QS loses. At best he stalemates until Superman gets annoyed and leaves.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERThat is relevant due to speed being discussed. Quit acting like you're someone when we both know you're no one.
You mean he can fly faster than Quicksilver can run.But from the feats given my guess would be that time definitely moves considerably slower for QS than it does for Superman. I would also reasonably guess that QS runs, dodges, kicks and punches considerably faster than Superman, hence could dance around him for a long while.
QS may even pack enough Kinetic Energy at that speed to make Superman blink. But he won't be able to take Supes down, and will eventually get tagged. (But that Might take a day or so)
STOP TROLLING
Originally posted by DreampantherQS isn't a gnat compared to Superman. Not in terms of size, weight, or speed. Horrible comparison.
It is, however, sufficient to indicate that should he consider the gnat that is QS worthy of his attention, he will have no problems swatting him.What are you trying to argue here? That if QS actually dared to engage in hand-to-hand combat with Supes he would do any better than Zod? 😆
Manipulating him? I see you gave up on the idea of QS being able to deflect Supes' punches - good boy! Now you have resorted to the more generic 'manipulating him'. What's really pathetic is that your only idea was that QS would somehow be able to move Supes' arms to make him hit himself, and once I disproved that, you ran out of ideas. Like your character, you're overmatched and outclassed, all you can think of is 'he will win somehow, even though I have no idea how!'
😕 Are you actually trying to claim that HV isn't hot? 😆
Wow. Just... wow. So now you have gone from claiming that Supes won't be able to touch QS because QS is that much faster, to claiming that Supes will lose because he is faster than QS! 😆
Shame, really - but then this match-up was a joke from the beginning, in more ways than one. 😉
I never said he'd deflect anything I said he'd manipulate the direction of his punches to hit himself in the head.
You don't even comprehend the meaning of my own posts. Ten years.
😂
QS beats Superman any way he wants. He manipulates Superman's punches, direction, etc. Without Kal knowing what is even going on.
Originally posted by quanchi112
That is relevant due to speed being discussed. Quit acting like you're someone when we both know you're no one.
Him letting his Father die in front of a crowd of people before he discovered the full extent of his powers has absolutely ZERO to do with his current speed.
You're someone alright. Biggest Troll on KMC, and everyone knows it.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERWrong. We see him later barely react to a two second bullet fire attack also proving his speed is pathetic compared to QS.
Him letting his Father die in front of a crowd of people before he discovered the full extent of his powers has absolutely ZERO to do with his current speed.You're someone alright. Biggest Troll on KMC, and everyone knows it.
QS is far younger and still is far faster. Lol at not understanding his speed then. He was just too slow to act and never as fast as QS.