Originally posted by quanchi112
Wrong. We see him later barely react to a two second bullet fire attack also proving his speed is pathetic compared to QS.
Which has Absolutely nothing to do with him letting his Father die TROLL.
Also what kind of argument is "barely" reacting? Did you see the scene from Superman's POV. If not shut it, because fact is he reacted to it and dodged it.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERYes, it does since he wasn't fast enough to save him without people seeing him. Two examples, crybaby.
Which has Absolutely nothing to do with him letting his Father die TROLL.Also what kind of argument is "barely" reacting? Did you see the scene from Superman's POV. If not shut it, because fact is he reacted to it and dodged it.
He barely dodged a two second attack whereas we have seen QS easily move all over a room while a bullet is being fired at a much closer distance performing complicated actions.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, it does since he wasn't fast enough to save him without people seeing him. Two examples, crybaby.
Because 1) He hadn't discovered the true extent of his powers yet
and 2) People still would have seen either him disappear, or his dad disappear DUUUUHHH!!!!!!!!!!
That was the problem with all those people watching DUUUUUHHHH!
Originally posted by quanchi112
He barely dodged a two second attack whereas we have seen QS easily move all over a room while a bullet is being fired at a much closer distance performing complicated actions.
How do you know he "barely" dodged it? That was from YOUR PERSPECTIVE, and it all happens in a second to you. You don't know what it was like from HIS PERESPECTIVE. We saw Quicksilver fighting from HIS PERSPECTIVE.
So this "barely dodged" argument, is a terrible terrible argument. Your terrible at this. You should quit really, and let us grown ups debate this.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
You mean he can fly faster than Quicksilver can run.But from the feats given my guess would be that time definitely moves considerably slower for QS than it does for Superman. I would also reasonably guess that QS runs, dodges, kicks and punches considerably faster than Superman, hence could dance around him for a long while.
QS may even pack enough Kinetic Energy at that speed to make Superman blink. But he won't be able to take Supes down, and will eventually get tagged. (But that Might take a day or so)
Why's that? QS only moves at mach 300 at best (This was another estimate for his speed I saw). Superman is much faster.
Plus QS will maim himself punching Superman.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERWe see the true extent of his powers and he barely avoids bullets despite having two seconds to do so.
Because 1) He hadn't discovered the true extent of his powers yet
and 2) People still would have seen either him disappear, or his dad disappear DUUUUHHH!!!!!!!!!!That was the problem with all those people watching DUUUUUHHHH!
How do you know he "barely" dodged it? That was from YOUR PERSPECTIVE, and it all happens in a second to you. You don't know what it was like from HIS PERESPECTIVE. We saw Quicksilver fighting from HIS PERSPECTIVE.
So this "barely dodged" argument, is a terrible terrible argument. Your terrible at this. You should quit really, and let us grown ups debate this.
We see his perspective doesn't change just like the other bigger one who got hit by it. Quit assuming something we've never seen without proof.
I cited evidence and you're emotionally compromised.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Why's that? QS only moves at mach 300 at best (This was another estimate for his speed I saw). Superman is much faster.Plus QS will maim himself punching Superman.
Superman flies faster than QS runs. But Superman hasn't been shown to be running or reacting anywhere close to the speeds QS was.
Also QS will likely just throw stuff at Supes with massive amounts of Kinetic Energy. He doesn't have to punch him and break his fist or anything.
Originally posted by quanchi112
We see the true extent of his powers and he barely avoids bullets despite having two seconds to do so.We see his perspective doesn't change just like the other bigger one who got hit by it. Quit assuming something we've never seen without proof.
I cited evidence and you're emotionally compromised.
Yeah I'm emotionally compromised when I'm arguing both sides right now.
Keep up the Trolling. It's all your good for 👆
Originally posted by DARTH POWERI posted evidence supporting my claims. Cry over it. You're trolling.
Superman flies faster than QS runs. But Superman hasn't been shown to be running or reacting anywhere close to the speeds QS was.Also QS will likely just throw stuff at Supes with massive amounts of Kinetic Energy. He doesn't have to punch him and break his fist or anything.
Yeah I'm emotionally compromised when I'm arguing both sides right now.
Keep up the Trolling. It's all your good for 👆
Quit avoiding me in the Khan vs. Vader Sci if tourney. I set a date and you're avoiding like a coward.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I posted evidence supporting my claims. Cry over it. You're trolling.Quit avoiding me in the Khan vs. Vader Sci if tourney. I set a date and you're avoiding like a coward.
Yeah except your "evidence" is irrelevant to what your claiming.
Lol I went to your link, I posted one feat which destroys your argument and made excuses not to play yet. Basically you crapped your pants and ran away 😂
You have to post me a speed feat of Khan being faster than the burst of speed feat I posted, but you can't so I've won. All you can do is Troll.
Anakin can jump at Kham with a burst of speed beyond him and then Khan is dead. Keep crying about it 😂
There are too many misconceptions in this thread. 1 of which is assuming that 30 mm rounds fired by an A-10 move at the same speed as some ceramic rounds fired by plastic guns. Another is QS's method of attack. QS has never been shown to redirect someone's punches, and he surely doesn't have the strength to do it to Kal. But playing devil's advocate and assuming he could, Kal wouldn't do it more than three times before he realized he just kept hitting himself. Something else that is being ignored is that if Kal is flying, QS will get caught in his anti-gravity field and float helpless.
All Kal has to do is float a dozen or so feet above the ground and wait for QS to submit himself for execution, because there is nothing QS can do to harm him.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERSuperman reacted to his own speed. 🙂
Superman flies faster than QS runs. But Superman hasn't been shown to be running or reacting anywhere close to the speeds QS was.Also QS will likely just throw stuff at Supes with massive amounts of Kinetic Energy. He doesn't have to punch him and break his fist or anything.
QS can't lift very much. It won't mean a lot.
Also, likely? QS didn't fight like that.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERWrong. I claimed he was slower and gave two instances QS could have easily performed better in.
Yeah except your "evidence" is irrelevant to what your claiming.Lol I went to your link, I posted one feat which destroys your argument and made excuses not to play yet. Basically you crapped your pants and ran away 😂
You have to post me a speed feat of Khan being faster than the burst of speed feat I posted, but you can't so I've won. All you can do is Troll.
Anakin can jump at Kham with a burst of speed beyond him and then Khan is dead. Keep crying about it 😂
I won't post until the battlezone starts Tuesday. I hope you're ready because evidence is coming your way in the form of an avalanche.
Originally posted by TheGrat1
There are too many misconceptions in this thread. 1 of which is assuming that 30 mm rounds fired by an A-10 move at the same speed as some ceramic rounds fired by plastic guns.
That's true.
Originally posted by TheGrat1
Another is QS's method of attack. QS has never been shown to redirect someone's punches,
Yes he has. He pointed one of the guards fists towards himself, and the guard ended up punching himself.
Of course it's very different to do that to a human, and doing it to a Kryptonian with super strength and speed, but QS can and has definitely done it to humans.
Originally posted by NemeBroQS can't lift very much. It won't mean a lot.
It won't be the weight, it will be the kinetic energy it's thrown with. Put it this way, if he throws bullets they will explode on Supes with a much more powerful impact than the ones Supes dodged.
But your right, it won't do much. Like I said, it will probably make Supes blink.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Wrong. I claimed he was slower and gave two instances QS could have easily performed better in. [/B]
Ok. But your argument of Supes "barely dodging them" still sucks. Fact is he dodged bullets likely firing much faster than the ones QS casually moved around.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I won't post until the battlezone starts Tuesday. I hope you're ready because evidence is coming your way in the form of an avalanche. [/B]
Post what you want, I've already won. But I'll be there anyway. You can humor me with your Trolling.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERThe bullets took two seconds to get to him. The bullets fired in closer proximity had less distance to travel and were far faster than a split second.
Ok. But your argument of Supes "barely dodging them" still sucks. Fact is he dodged bullets likely firing much faster than the ones QS casually moved around.Post what you want, I've already won. But I'll be there anyway. You can humor me with your Trolling.
You are such a troll. You argue despite the evidence being in my favor. You even agree. You're a sickening troll.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The bullets took two seconds to get to him. The bullets fired in closer proximity had less distance to travel and were far faster than a split second.
If those faster bullets actually hit him, then you'd have an argument.
The fact that he dodged them whilst distracted by other Kryptonians does not favor your argument at all. Not even one little bit.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You are such a troll. You argue despite the evidence being in my favor. You even agree. You're a sickening troll.
LOL Says THE TROLL of KMC.
You have to learn what evidence is, instead of posting random scenes which are actually feats of Superman and not weaknesses.
QS was messing around with guards and plastic bullets in a small room. Superman was out in the open battling super powered aliens whilst having to worry about proper military grade weapons.
And yet all you've posted is Superman in that much more difficult situation still dodging the bullets.
Like I said, THE TROLL OF KMC needs to learn what evidence actually is.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERNo, that is some of the worst logic I've ever heard in my life. Having two seconds to respond and barely getting away while staring right at the jet isn't even close to QS. Had Superman easily moved away but we see he barely moved out of the way despite his full attention and the greater distance the bullets had to travel to get to him.
If those faster bullets actually hit him, then you'd have an argument.The fact that he dodged them whilst distracted by other Kryptonians does not favor your argument at all. Not even one little bit.
LOL Says THE TROLL of KMC.
You have to learn what evidence is, instead of posting random scenes which are actually feats of Superman and not weaknesses.
QS was messing around with guards and plastic bullets in a small room. Superman was out in the open battling super powered aliens whilst having to worry about proper military grade weapons.
And yet all you've posted is Superman in that much more difficult situation still dodging the bullets.
Like I said, THE TROLL OF KMC needs to learn what evidence actually is.
What the bullets are made of is a moot point only the speed at which they travel. QS with relative ease performed multiple actions with the bullets only having to travel a much shorter distance.
What they are made of also doesn't matter since we can time out the man of steel's bullets at two seconds. We see that isn't even remotely the case here.
Now quit trolling and find a brain.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, that is some of the worst logic I've ever heard in my life.
LOL You saying that is proof enough that it's great logic.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Having two seconds to respond and barely getting away while staring right at the jet isn't even close to QS. Had Superman easily moved away but we see he barely moved out of the way despite his full attention and the greater distance the bullets had to travel to get to him.
Lol while staring right at the Jet. Do you not have any concept of the word CONTEXT?!
Was Superman fighting the Jet? What was his focus on? It was on the Kryptonians! A 2 second break in that fight looking at a Jet to see what it's doing and who it's going to fire on is suddenly supposed to be a low feat now?
And he still dodged it! LOL
What do you not get that it was "barely" from YOUR DUMB ASS PERSPECTIVE.
Originally posted by quanchi112
What the bullets are made of is a moot point only the speed at which they travel. QS with relative ease performed multiple actions with the bullets only having to travel a much shorter distance.What they are made of also doesn't matter since we can time out the man of steel's bullets at two seconds. We see that isn't even remotely the case here.
And what you think plastic bullets in the 60's will be travelling faster than mutiple rounds of proper military weapons in the 21st century?
Are you high?
QS handled a much easier situation much more easily. Superman handled an immensely more difficult situation. Your not proving anything except how bad you are at debating.
And btw I actually do believe QS is faster, but your arguments are just terrible! Terrible. You should quit this forum and go clear your head somewhere. Preferably with some professional help.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERIt is evidence. You can continue to avoid it, sport.
LOL You saying that is proof enough that it's great logic.Lol while staring right at the Jet. Do you not have any concept of the word CONTEXT?!
Was Superman fighting the Jet? What was his focus on? It was on the Kryptonians! A 2 second break in that fight looking at a Jet to see what it's doing and who it's going to fire on is suddenly supposed to be a low feat now?
And he still dodged it! LOL
What do you not get that it was "barely" from YOUR DUMB ASS PERSPECTIVE.
And what you think plastic bullets in the 60's will be travelling faster than mutiple rounds of proper military weapons in the 21st century?
Are you high?
QS handled a much easier situation much more easily. Superman handled an immensely more difficult situation. Your not proving anything except how bad you are at debating.
And btw I actually do believe QS is faster, but your arguments are just terrible! Terrible. You should quit this forum and go clear your head somewhere. Preferably with some professional help.
His focus was on the jet as was the other Knians. They all paused and focused on it. You're a troll who makes things up and avoids the evidence. This Tuesday I'm going to smear your ignorant nose in the evidence.
🙂
Dodging something and giving people wedgies and slapping others while the bullet is moving is two totally different speed feats, sport.
We see it took two seconds. It also had a greater distance to travel. You can't change the two seconds it took to get there, bucko.
You are emotional and quite frankly stupid.