Spider-man Vs Hawkman

Originally posted by carver9
Spiderman blitzed Masterson to near defeat and Masterson has flown light speed on many of occasions. He blitzed Firelord. He has blitzed Thor. He has blitzed a possessed Surfer. Hawkman would most definitely get blitzed.

He blitzed Firelord who was holding back, and good for blitzing Thor. Hawkman actually has gone against and beaten speedsters so your comparison falls flat. So Spider-Man is faster then Silver Surfer? hmmmm....also as mentioned Hawkman has super speed in flight and fighting skill.

Did any of those speedblitz actually beat any of them? No.

Hawkman with the Claw of Horus has "beat" Superman.
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Do I really need to post people far slower then then people you listed regularly tagging Spider-Man? 😬

Originally posted by -K-M-
Then with Hawkman's enhanced vision Spider-Man is not going to move faster then he can react.
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[b]Heightened Senses
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Identity Crisis #2 [Vol.1]: [Hawkman (Hall)]
Hawkman's vision is so great he can count the flaps of a Hummingbird and most importantly can see Flash when he is invisble vibrating so fast.

1. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Identity_Crisis_02_Page_04.jpg
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Trinity #13 (Vol.2)
Here Hawkman can see people teleport a split second before they do, by seeing the air fracture

1. http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/Trinity13p19.jpg
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Hawkman #13 (Vol.4): Eye-Sight (Hall)
Carter explains the nth metal allows him to see for miles.

1. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman_v4_13_016.jpg

As mentioned we haven't even gone into Hawkman's many other abilities. Anyone who says Spider-Man stomps is kidding themselves

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I'd say those feats put him in Spidey's league of speed, but I still don't see him as faster quite yet based on those, if anything I would call speed a wash in that case (with the SS being a certain advantage)

Originally posted by -K-M-
He blitzed Firelord who was holding back, and good for blitzing Thor. Hawkman actually has gone against and beaten speedsters so your comparison falls flat. So Spider-Man is faster then Silver Surfer? hmmmm....also as mentioned Hawkman has super speed in flight and fighting skill.

Did any of those speedblitz actually beat any of them? No.

Hawkman with the Claw of Horus has "beat" Superman.
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Do I really need to post people far slower then then people you listed regularly tagging Spider-Man? 😬

Uuuuummmm...Firelord was helpless when Spiderman was blitzing him. Firelord even threatened to destroy the City before Spiderman blitzed him because he was fed up so I don't get where you came up with him holding back 'during the end'. Spiderman overall speed fts are better.

Originally posted by carver9
Uuuuummmm...Firelord was helpless when Spiderman was blitzing him. Firelord even threatened to destroy the City before Spiderman blitzed him because he was fed up so I don't get where you came up with him holding back 'during the end'. Spiderman overall speed fts are better.

Ummm Firelord limited himself and held back as per the story. Now show me Firelord showing great reflex speed....go.

So if your holding back as your afraid of hurting Spider-Man and the city you honestly think that's a good indication of a true fight? Oh lord.

Originally posted by JayDaDon
I'd say those feats put him in Spidey's league of speed, but I still don't see him as faster quite yet based on those, if anything I would call speed a wash in that case (with the SS being a certain advantage)

Which I'm fine with, it's some (ie. Carver) saying Spider-Man is just to fast for him which is hardly true....

No way is Spidey too fast for HM to see, but in a fight he might still get hit. There are variables, such as positioning. A person can see a car coming at them but if there's no room to dodge...

I'm actually learning a lot in this thread. Appreciate it.

True, I doubt KM is saying Hawkman is going to be dancing around Spidey - he WILL get hit, after all.

Problem then is that Hawkman would be able to tank some of those blows, and dish some of his own out.

Agreed.
I try not to make fights that are total stomps, though i'm proven wrong sometimes.
This one i still think could go either way, and i love the debate, its helping me get to know folks here, too!

Here's a quick guide:

Carver is always wrong.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
True, I doubt KM is saying Hawkman is going to be dancing around Spidey - he WILL get hit, after all.

Problem then is that Hawkman would be able to tank some of those blows, and dish some of his own out.

Bingo. All I was debating is their closer in psychical stats and have comparable feats contrary to what some people believed. People slower then spider-man have tagged him with ease and people slower then hawkman have tagged him with ease. To outright say spider-man would just dominate and hawkman couldn't compete is well...wrong. This would be a close fight. Anyone saying otherwise for spider-man or hawkman is kidding themselves

Hawkman owned a CL 50 being and knocked him into orbit. If Spidey gets hit, it will be the same.

Hawkman may have the most skewed perception of what he can and cant do next to Aquaman.
Both these guys are dismissed really quick in Fights!

Spiderman.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Hawkman is able to keep up with the Flash when he's in intangible mode:

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Identity_Crisis_02_Page_04.jpg

And as for speedsters:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/JSA_03_04-05.jpg

Speed isn't an issue for him.

Thanks to Mungi for the scans from his awesome respect thread.

Great speed feats. Well this definitely gives Carter more of a chance. I still say Spidey because of his pre-cog Spidey sense and webbing (which could be used to slow down Carter for free hits).

Now Carter will can hit Spidey if Spidey attacks and he counters after dodging. But if Carter attacks then Spidey will dodge and counter. If Spidey uses webbing first, then Spidey has a much better chance of winning.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Hawkman owned a CL 50 being and knocked him into orbit. If Spidey gets hit, it will be the same.

Originally posted by h1a8
Hawkman did what? He knocked someone in orbit? Are you phucking serious? Please scan me or issue me. I love to see that.
We are now talking millions of tons of strength now if by fists and hundreds of thousands of tons by club object.

Well, here is the fight. This combat mode would crush Spidey.

Can't actually read the scans (on my phone) but that doesn't look like orbit

Not nearly orbit, from what I can tell.

It looks like a few hundred feet to me... And it appears that they were in the air before the punch.

Originally posted by riv6672
Hawkman may have the most skewed perception of what he can and cant do next to Aquaman.
Both these guys are dismissed really quick in Fights!

Aquaman had it worse before the reboot, but thankfully his revamp has helped him quite a bit.