Lol @ Dooku being better than Vader in sabers
In a purely lightsaber duel Anakin crushed Dooku by using the darkside to make him stronger, peak Vader with his durasteel arms doing the same thing will still kill Dooku. The only advantage Dooku has is mobility, but even then Vader had a few decades to refine his technique easily making him on par with Dooku.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Well obviously it's better than the OT. No ****ing shit.
Exactly. ROTS Anakin>Vader.
Originally posted by carthage
Lol @ Dooku being better than Vader in sabersIn a purely lightsaber duel Anakin crushed Dooku by using the darkside to make him stronger, peak Vader with his durasteel arms doing the same thing will still kill Dooku. The only advantage Dooku has is mobility, but even then Vader had a few decades to refine his technique easily making him on par with Dooku.
Please, bloodlusted Luke was able to pressure Vader, what do you think Dooku will do to him?
Also Anakin is hyped by Mace as perhaps being the most powerful Jedi in the order, and by the ROTS novel.
Dooku hasn't demonstrated similar strength feats to a bloodlusted Luke, he isn't a power duelist, and even if he did break Vader's defense Vader can shrug off his attacks to his armor. Vader has superior force abilities and has fought limbless in the EU. Dooku has no advantage to him other than mobility.
Originally posted by Lord Stark
[B]Exactly. ROTS Anakin>Vader.
Please, bloodlusted Luke was able to pressure Vader, what do you think Dooku will do to him?
Also Anakin is hyped by Mace as perhaps being the most powerful Jedi in the order, and by the ROTS novel.
Originally posted by carthage
Dooku hasn't demonstrated similar strength feats to a bloodlusted Luke, he isn't a power duelist, and even if he did break Vader's defense Vader can shrug off his attacks to his armor. Vader has superior force abilities and has fought limbless in the EU. Dooku has no advantage to him other than mobility.
Unless you want to argue Luke is stronger than ROTS Anakin. No he doesn't.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
When did this happen? I've been trying to find this.
ROTS Novel:
"This is Anakin Skywalker:
The most powerful Jedi of his generation. Perhaps of any generation."
"You must keep this one." Mace laced his fingers together land
squeezed until his knuckles crackled like blasterfire. "Skywalker is
arguably the most powerful Jedi alive, and he is still getting stronger.
But he is not stable."
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
What is this supported by? From what I've seen, the comment never said that.
Its supported by Anakin being reputed as perhaps being the most powerful Jedi in history by the narrative, then having the exact same thing stated by Mace. Also Lucas blatantly wanting the PT to be shown as the height of combat in comparison to the OT.
Die.
Why because Vader's most canon feats don't place him on the ludicrously high pedestal you all expect?
Are you trying to say that Anakin could defeat Yoda or even Mace himself in RotS? Really? He had the potential sure, but nothing has shown Anakin to be the most powerful at his stage then.
Yoda? Of course not, don't be ridiculous.
Mace? This is obvious. Dooku was Mace's equal if not superior in dueling and in power. Mace knew this, Dooku knew this, its stated in canon multiple times.
ROTS Novel:
"This is Anakin Skywalker:
The most powerful Jedi of his generation. PERHAPS of any generation."
"You must keep this one." Mace laced his fingers together land
squeezed until his knuckles crackled like blasterfire. "Skywalker is
ARGUABLY the most powerful Jedi alive, and he is still getting stronger.
But he is not stable."
Originally posted by NewGuy01
The fact that it's even arguable that his own power supersede Yoda's is more than enough to put him above most.
Indeed.
Also the fact that defeating Dooku is enough to question if Anakin is indeed more powerful than Yoda speaks volumes about Darth Tyranus, not to mention Mace thinking Dooku was the Master of the Sith.
Originally posted by Lord StarkIts supported by Anakin being reputed as perhaps being the most powerful Jedi in history by the narrative, then having the exact same thing stated by Mace. Also Lucas blatantly wanting the PT to be shown as the height of combat in comparison to the OT.
Why because Vader's most canon feats don't place him on the ludicrously high pedestal you all expect?
Yoda? Of course not, don't be ridiculous.
Mace? This is obvious. Dooku was Mace's equal if not superior in dueling and in power. Mace knew this, Dooku knew this, its stated in canon multiple times. [/B]
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
That doesn't change the fact that Vader is shown to be far more powerful in the time between III and VI. And Vader himself states he's grown in power.
Grown in power since he got mutilated.
This statement implies that Dooku's do. I'm more impressed with Vader's post-RotS feats than Dooku's pre-RotS feats.
If Dooku fought Luke he'd absolutely humiliate him in seconds.
Dooku beat Mace before his prime as I recall. And if Skywalker is indeed Vader's most powerful incarnation, as you claim, he should then have no trouble with Yoda. He is indeed the most powerful Jedi alive afterall.
You recall wrong. What? There is no form of Vader that would not get demolished by Yoda.
Originally posted by Lord Stark
Grown in power since he got mutilated.
If Dooku fought Luke he'd absolutely humiliate him in seconds.
You recall wrong. What? There is no form of Vader that would not get demolished by Yoda.