I now see why you never joined. 😛
http://www.starwarsforums.org/t7178-ki-adi-mundi-vs-darth-bane-pod
I now see why you never joined. 😛
http://www.starwarsforums.org/t7178-ki-adi-mundi-vs-darth-bane-pod
Originally posted by Nephthys
Disagree. Plus there were a lot of circumstances in that fight to factor in. And Skywalker was emotionally compromised and was overwhelming him through much of the duel.
Considering the Sith Lord returned to the light side you don't think Sajar wasn't 'emotionally compromised'?
Right, but in terms of Windu's own personal force ability and skill Scourge matches him just fine.
Scourge couldn't even match Maul let alone Mace.
The Hero of Tython was the greatest TOR era Jedi even at that point. She managed to run through Vitiate's Force Storm unlike all other members of the team. And defeated Scourge.
And Mace was the second greatest Jedi of an era with more notables. He defeated Sora Bulq, Kar Vastor, and Depa Billaba all of whom would give Scourge a run for his money if not defeat him outright.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I was their for two years. Truth. 👆 Here are my personal favorites (credit goes to emperordmb for collecting them):"Kolar>Malgus>Bane as duelists."
"Kit Fisto is just better than Darth Krayt."
"Obi-Wan is just better than Darth Malgus."
"Darth Maul is just better than Exar Kun"
"Saying that Malgus would beat Fisto because he is more powerful is lolworthy."
"How is Bane beating Ventress?"
"Vos>Bane."
"Admit Bane's limitations, restrictions, failure, weakness, and inferiority."
"Top Ten Most Powerful Sith Lords... 10. Savage Opress."
Again, you have no point, and are clearly missing mine.
BTW, Neph, how on earth does fighting a random sith lord for days put one above of the likes of Fisto, Kolar and Tiin anymore than it would put him above of the likes of Yoda and Sidious?
Originally posted by carthage
Thank you for confirming my point (see bold print) 👆. As he has made Kaas a nexus by virtue of your own admission, all of his feats can be called into question especially as unlike Palpatine he hasn't demonstrated any similar abilities outside of them
A nexus is an immensely strong concentration of energy in a place that may have the potential to influence individuals either negatively or positively who may get exposed to it.
Dromund Kaas certainly became strong in the dark side under influence of Emperor Vitiate but it wasn't a nexus of dark side energy on the whole, people could function normally on many parts of this planet as an indication. Some regions in this world did became nexuses of dark side energy and Emperor Vitiate was responsible for these developments (e.g. Dark Temple, as confirmed in Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia) but most of his battles did not took place in these places.
So you need to revisit your choice of words.
Originally posted by carthage
Cuing the irrelevant nonsense you always post. I don't drop it seeing as his supposedly 00BER feats are either on Dromund Kaas, when he has Sith lords to sponge off of, or with immense prep. Sending four Jedi masters back isn't that impressive on its own, Kun and Krayt have all sent respective force users flying Vitiate just had three others to do it to
This argument of yours have already been dismissed/refuted by me in another thread with official information. You need to drop this futile argument if you want to be taken seriously.
Originally posted by carthage
He did't do it because he has no relevant speed feats to suggest he is capable of doing it 👆. Being able to match and fight with Revan's speed is not the same as overwhelming their senses and killing them (like Krayt), or stabbing four people before they can react in one slice (Kun).
Originally posted by carthage
On a nexus that you admitted he created and drew from for feats he couldn't replicate elsewhere 👆
Reality check: Nexus does not makes a Force-user stronger.
Originally posted by carthage
Apart from some examples such as Baras, Nox, and Thanathon, title means nothing if you have no examples of power to show for it.
It is not necessary for the authors to expand on capabilities of every known member of the Dark Council, too much story to tell to be honest. However, all TOR sources point out that Dark Council members are formidable Sith by all accounts on average.
Originally posted by carthage
They were scared of him, and of course because most of the dark council has no feats to suggest they can fight back.
Also, you think that Dark Council members are mooks or helpless? Get realistic.
Originally posted by carthage
Palpatine killing Tiin, Kolar, and Fisto for one? Seeing as he wasn't on a nexus when he blitzed them. Fighting the most powerful Jedi of all time and beating him, fighting and toying with Maul and Opress, choking Dooku across the galaxy, bringing Vader to his knees with thought domination. There is more I can list.
Emperor Vitiate have killed/subdued thousands of individuals by himself including whole Strike Teams of powerful individuals. He also have defeated some of the greatest heroes of the mythos and even went as far as to use them as his pwns.
Emperor Vitiate have influenced entire worlds with his powers, controlled the outcome of the most ambitious dark sorcery to have ever been attempted, achieved corporeal immortality, intimidated millions of Sith, controlled the mighty Dread Masters, manifested himself within thousands of other individuals to increase his reach on galactic scale and multi-tasked in his actions. His actions resulted in incalculable loss of life and destruction in the galaxy.
Originally posted by carthage
Too bad we're evaluating what actually happened, and his shit performance and how humiliatingly laughable he went down. There are no what ifs, he either fought someone or he didn't. If there is nothing to draw from in terms of his combat ability, then there is nothing to speak of and it is therefore irrelevant to the discussion. Palpatine defeated his era's best, Vitiate didn't.
Vitiate defeated his era's best as well. In-fact, he defeated whole Strike Teams of powerful Force-users.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Back then, it was cool, and we wanted more members.I thought you would have fit nicely with the rest of the members. 😉
So you were doing the "PT wankers'" work in recruiting members? Do you regret doing that? If so, why? Couldn't be because of all the wanking going on.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I was a head moderator on that forum, it was my responsibility to recruit new members. 😬
Your responsibility to recruit more members to the "PT wanking" cause? No one can force that kinda of responsibility on you. Why were you so helpful to a forum that you are now bashing? I mean, it was nice of you, but why would you do it?
stuff.
He transformed the planet into a nexus, ergo his most powerful feats took place and were amped by the effects of it. Once again he never replicated any feats similar to the magnitude of what he did off nexus, unlike the other two fighters. Similarly, he also requires tons of prep to do anything on a massive scale unlike Krayt or Kun have displayed off nexus
A nexus is an immensely strong concentration of energy in a place that may have the potential to influence individuals either negatively or positively who may get exposed to it.
Which influenced how powerful Vitiate's feats were 👆
If places strong in the dark side or light side can have significant impact on performance of Force-users, how come Sith managed to perform well against the Jedi inside the Jedi Temple and Jedi managed to perform well against Sith inside the Dark Temple? Ponder over this.Reality check: Nexus does not makes a Force-user stronger.
Hard to imagine considering Vitiate has next to now showings without one and all of his most powerful feats take place on areas by your own admission that are powerful in the darkside.
Too much irrelevant stuff to respond too imo, either post some of his combat feats or stop really. Palpatine has him outclassed in every area, this has been debated with you on every forum you've ever been on and all you do is just abscond with stupid quotes you conjure up.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Your responsibility to recruit more members to the "PT wanking" cause? No one can force that kinda of responsibility on you. Why were you so helpful to the members that you are now bashing? I mean, it was nice of you, but why would you do it?
Wrong. The head admin there was...well...
Most people don't really take the word *forced me* over the Internet seriously, but at certain times, he threatened me to or otherwise he would give my personal information/appearance and post them on pornographic websites. So after the couple encounters with the threats, I just made sure I did my job for the duration of my time there.
Also however, other times I was enjoying the forum, and other members from here (Q99) joined it was a nice to see diversity. So after experiencing one KMC member, I thought "damn, these guys are pretty good, why not recruit more." Oh, and also because I donated 20 dollars to disable ads on it, so I didn't want my money to be wasted.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Wrong. The head admin there was...well...
Most people don't really take the word *forced me* over the Internet seriously, but at certain times, he threatened me to or otherwise he would give my personal information/appearance and post them on pornographic websites. So after the couple encounters with the threats, I just made sure I did my job for the duration of my time there.Also however, other times I was enjoying the forum, and other members from here (Q99) joined it was a nice to see diversity. So after experiencing one KMC member, I thought "damn, these guys are pretty good, why not recruit more." Oh, and also because I donated 20 dollars to disable ads on it, so I didn't want my money to be wasted.
So you don't feel threatened anymore? What's changed?
If the head administrator didn't threaten you, would you still be putting in as much effort in the forum? Or do you regret all that you did for it? If so, why?
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I feel these questions are mocking and full of sarcasm.
It's not.
It just seems that you're bashing the forum because of how terrible they treated to you, not because of the "PT wank," and that other than all those threats, you seemed to really enjoy the forums despite all the arguments there that you consider to be stupid.
I didn't and would never do that to you, so don't try to insult me or butt in on something that you're not fully aware of just because of something someone else did to you. Don't try to sympathize with LeGenD when he is one of the most aggressive posters here. Just because he craves sympathy doesn't make him innocent.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
It's not.It just seems that you're bashing the forum because of how terrible they treated to you, not because of the "PT wank," and that other than all those threats, you seemed to really enjoy the forums despite all the arguments there that you consider to be stupid.
I didn't and would never do that to you, so don't try to insult me or butt in on something that you're not fully aware of just because of something someone else did to you. Don't try to sympathize with LeGenD when he is one of the most aggressive posters here. Just because he craves sympathy doesn't make him innocent.
I don't crave sympathy, some people disrespecting me as a person in this community doesn't takes away from my position in my life off-screen. After-all, we don't know each other in life off-screen. I have earned respect in life off-screen which is good enough for me.
What I often see in this forum is utter stupidity and lack of professionalism from some members who tend to project themselves as all-in-all judge, jury and executioners.
I get the disagreements aspect, if logical. What I don't like is deliberate overlooking of presented information, personal attacks and harboring grudges against each other over something as trivial as fiction.
The_Tempest have gone overboard with his behavior. Their is another who utterly disrespected me once, Nai (arguably the best debator). I used to respect Nai a lot once but that one poorly thought-out remark from him changed my perception about him and I decided not to interact with him again.
These members aside, I had disagreements with many other members in my debates; list includes Nephthys, Emperordmb, Q99 and XSUPREMEXSKILLZ. Honestly speaking, these guys are great and fun to debate with. DarthAnt66 have considerably improved as well. I also like Stealth Moose, very intellectual.
So let go of your personal disliking towards me at minimum. We may not be allies in the subject of Star Wars but we can be good to each other at personal capacity.
Actions speak louder then words, you are the one who is needlessly provoking me and insulting me. I have exercised patience thus far. DarthAnt66 is correct, I don't typically react unless provoked.