Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
You (or any fan) is not in the position to make definitive assertions like these.
Isn't that what you're doing by asserting that Vitiate is more powerful than Sidious? And the comment about Disney's future plans being murky goes both ways. Since we don't know what they are going to do, we fall back on what's already been established by the proper established sources, until told otherwise.
Lmao, Vitiaite was called the greatest Dark Side master IIRC. So has Bane, Sidious, Plagueis, etc. And The Son however along with the Ones is considered stronger than any Jedi/Sith AND he's the embodiment of the Dark Side. I also enjoy how my comment was ignored, provide my any thing that remotely comes close to Luke's speed please.
Btw, there's another Galactic Emperor we're forgetting.
What if we threw Xandel Carivus?
Originally posted by Emperordmb
The Star Wars the Clone Wars TV series that refers to the Ones as being more powerful than any the Jedi or Sith have ever seen before constitutes a higher level of canon than a TOR encyclopedia.
Originally posted by Kalen Sykes
Isn't that what you're doing by asserting that Vitiate is more powerful than Sidious? And the comment about Disney's future plans being murky goes both ways. Since we don't know what they are going to do, we fall back on what's already been established by the proper established sources, until told otherwise.
Sidious, as of ROTS, isn't strong enough to contend with Emperor Vitiate by any stretch of imagination. Only at DE stage, he have a chance, IMO.
Originally posted by The Merchant
Lmao, Vitiaite was called the greatest Dark Side master IIRC. So has Bane, Sidious, Plagueis, etc. And The Son however along with the Ones is considered stronger than any Jedi/Sith AND he's the embodiment of the Dark Side. I also enjoy how my comment was ignored, provide my any thing that remotely comes close to Luke's speed please.
I have the TOR Encyclopedia, as well, and I'm familiar with the comments describing Vitiate's power. Personally, I feel the quotes about Vitiate being the strongest in galactic history are referring to history just up to TOR. It sounds like you're looking at it from the perspective of the source being printed more recently than the sources about Sidious. I get where you're coming from, but I doubt that is how it was intended. I also don't think Bioware has the authority to rewrite what has already been established during the film timeline (Palpatine being the most powerful Sith ever).
Keep in mind, when the game (and Vitiate) launched, GL was still in charge of everything. Disney didn't buy him out until 2012. So, if Lucas was in charge during the character's inception and development, I doubt he would place Vitiate higher than his personal creation. If you look at the TOR Encyclopedia as only referring to everything up to the game in galactic history, then it doesn't contradict Palpatine.
Originally posted by Kalen Sykes
As far as who's more powerful, it's Sidious. Even ignoring all of his feats in DE and any other EU material, we're still left with Palpatine as the end-all be-all of Sith Lords. Why? It's quite simple: He's not solely part of Legends canon. Sure, alot of his exploits are, but he originated in the films. Plus, the creator of the entire franchise called him the most powerful. I realize the quote was made before Vitiate came along, but again: Legends canon, not Established. See, even if (and I do mean IF) Disney decides to completely rewrite GL's vision, they haven't done it yet, so we are left with what has been specified in the acknowledged universe Disney is going by (films, TCW series, upcoming novels, and certain existing ones, if I'm not mistaken). The beauty of Legends canon is anything could be pulled from there, at any time, and placed in the main universe, but it hasn't happened, yet.
Lucas never stated such a thing, its a misconception that seems to be running around in everywhere, and has been for years. Unless such a statement was stated in the movies, or the clone wars. Then its Non Canon.
Originally posted by Kalen Sykes
I have the TOR Encyclopedia, as well, and I'm familiar with the comments describing Vitiate's power. Personally, I feel the quotes about Vitiate being the strongest in galactic history are referring to history just up to TOR. It sounds like you're looking at it from the perspective of the source being printed more recently than the sources about Sidious. I get where you're coming from, but I doubt that is how it was intended. I also don't think Bioware has the authority to rewrite what has already been established during the film timeline (Palpatine being the most powerful Sith ever).Big guy Lucas never stated such a thing, and unless it was stated in the movies or the TCWs then its NON CANON. Also Vitiate cant really be considered a Sith.
Keep in mind, when the game (and Vitiate) launched, GL was still in charge of everything. Disney didn't buy him out until 2012. So, if Lucas was in charge during the character's inception and development, I doubt he would place Vitiate higher than his personal creation. If you look at the TOR Encyclopedia as only referring to everything up to the game in galactic history, then it doesn't contradict Palpatine.
Originally posted by The Merchant
Lmao, Vitiaite was called the greatest Dark Side master IIRC. So has Bane, Sidious, Plagueis, etc. And The Son however along with the Ones is considered stronger than any Jedi/Sith AND he's the embodiment of the Dark Side. I also enjoy how my comment was ignored, provide my any thing that remotely comes close to Luke's speed please.
The Sith Emperor has mastered the dark side's power to become the most dominating Force-user the galaxy has ever seen.
From (Star Wars: The Old Republic: Codex Entry titled "The Emperor's Fallen Jedi (Knight)."😉
The Sith Emperor is the most powerful Force-user who has ever existed. Unless this implacable enemy can be defeated, the Jedi Order is doomed.
From (Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia)
The Sith Emperor, history's most powerful dark side master, performed a ritual of incredible scope to consume the life energy of every being on his homeworld.
From (Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia)
Over 300 years ago, the great Jedi heroes Revan and Malak stumbled upon long-hidden Sith Empire's capital of Dromund Kaas, and its ruler - a mysterious, almost godlike avatar of the dark side.
The Emperor is more than a man - he is the living embodiment of the dark side.
From (Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia)
He was a living embodiment of the dark side of the Force who delighted in destroying the minds and spirits of those Jedi who came too close to him.
From (Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia)
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