Exar Kun and Darth Krayt vs Vitiate(force powers only)

Started by Nephthys7 pages

Nox is boss, yeah. Raw power out the ears, skilled enough to slap aside force lightning and just as skilled in lightsaber combat.

Demolishing a Sith as powerful as Thanaton is a incredible feat. And Nox has some great feats even while an acolyte.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Really? Thanks, that clears some things up.

You're welcome.

Literature always helps in matters that may not be properly evaluated or understood through gameplay scenarios.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
I wouldn't say it's necessarily out of their range. However I have no plans on turning this point into a protracted and drawn-out argument.

Ok

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
While destroying an army is a very good feat, it took the collective efforts of thousands of jedi to effectively imprison Kun,

I believe that Jedi went overboard in their attempts to contain the threat of Kun. An entire Republic force arrived to bomb the shit out of Yavin IV.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
and Krayt is vastly superior to jedi of his era who've taken out hordes of sith by themselves. Again, not trying to lowball it, just saying that it isn't unprecedented.

I fully understand that Krayt is very good. It is the underestimation of elites of the reconstituted ancient Sith Empire that I have an issue with, this Empire have produced some of the greatest Sith in galactic history. If you ever have a chance to read Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia, you will understand my position in this matter. Reconstituted ancient Sith Empire arguably represents the pinnacle of Sith progress in the entire mythos.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
...Except we don't know the direct circumstances of the confrontation. Did he use a ritual? Because on-screen he really hasn't ever displayed such power. Take Revan, for example. If the Emperor was capable of annihilating a dark council on the fly, Revan wouldn't have lasted 5 seconds against Vitiate.

This confrontation have been described only in Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia. The sourcebook reveals that Emperor Vitiate somehow became aware of this assassination attempt on him but when the Strike Team approached his position, he knocked down the entire Strike Team; 11 members perished instantly while 1 survived but in unconscious condition. What became of the unconscious member is unknown to other individuals within the Empire but presumed to be dead. It is also pointed out in the same sourcebook that Emperor Vitiate explored the most sinister and uncharted depths of the dark side; this suggests that he had command of lot of applications of dark side.

Their are some applications that can be used to quickly destroy living beings and it is a realistic possibility that Emperor Vitiate had command of such applications.

Now, as much authors may wank Emperor Vitiate, they also need to tell a story. If Emperor Vitiate is depicted as doing his best in every scenario, their wouldn't much story to tell, right? 😉

Revan's performance against Emperor Vitiate may seem impressive but holistically he never stood a chance against such a powerful Force-user. In-fact, Emperor Vitiate would have reduced Revan to ash if he wanted to but changed his mind during combat process, T3-M4 became the casualty in Revan's place instead.

If Emperor Vitiate really wanted to kill Revan, the latter surely wouldn't have lasted even 5 seconds as you put. Heck, it is explicitly pointed out in the novel that even the Strike Team of Revan, Scourge and Meetra would have lost to Emperor Vitiate.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Seriously, stop making a fool out of yourself. Your ignorance is stupendous.

That is unavoidable whenever he's debating anything with Vitiate, Bane, Revan, or Zannah... complete foolishness, ignorance, and retardation across the board.

Wow it seems I missed a bit of this debate.

Btw, you know how I often talk about the effectiveness of numbers?

That applies more to sabers than to force. It's not *as* hard to target two people in the force as it is to fight two people physically, or fight one physically while dealing with another in the force. If things cannot close to physical, then while some splitting of attention is required, it's not too hard to track two foes at once.

So it's mostly additive.

When Vitiate obliterated the strike team of Braga and co., was any of the following involved:

a) preparation
b) ritual
c) charging up power/lightning
d) location strong with the dark side

Originally posted by Q99
Btw, you know how I often talk about the effectiveness of numbers?

That applies more to sabers than to force. It's not *as* hard to target two people in the force as it is to fight two people physically, or fight one physically while dealing with another in the force. If things cannot close to physical, then while some splitting of attention is required, it's not too hard to track two foes at once.

So it's mostly additive.

Couldn't agree more. While Vitiate can defend against their combined attacks, all he has to do is take down one of them. After that, its a slaugther.

On the flip side, I'd also say it's easier to pool force defense than it is to do so with sabers. If two people stand near each other, they can force-block the same attacks together, combine powers for a barrier, etc..

Of course. Yet Vitiate would cause a lot of trouble with his mind tricks. It would be harder for them to defend against his force attacks while they're also trying to defend against his mind controling tricks which would give him an edge. He would ultimately crush one of them before they crush him.

Originally posted by Texas Hold Em
When Vitiate obliterated the strike team of Braga and co., was any of the following involved:

a) preparation
b) ritual
c) charging up power/lightning
d) location strong with the dark side

A) No
B) No, he doesn't always need to do rituals, unlike what so many say.
C) No. What the ****s wrong with charging lighting though?
D) NO. Its been explained so many ****ing times already! It was in a NON NEXUS, in fact as I've already said, Vitiate himself is a Nexus, so all his feats are Nexus one's if you want to be technical.