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NemeBro Senior Member

Oberyn died though.

He lost the duel.

And Oberyn did receive noble training, and has participated in tourneys.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by NemeBro
Die?

Toyed with him, mocked him, and pulled his weapon out of him. Did you miss the show ?

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by NemeBro
Oberyn died though.
He lost the duel.
And Oberyn did receive noble training, and has participated in tourneys.

Context. According to the creator one could argue for either and seeing how well above Oberyn was skill level to Gregor this proves my case.

Oberyn is the best.

🙂

Robtard Senor Member

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Eminence Boss

NemeBro
Oberyn died though.
He lost the duel.

After hamstringing and impaling Gregor and intentionally neglecting to kill him for about a full minute. Again, maybe I'm not clear on how CIS/PIS function in this context.

NemeBro
And Oberyn did receive noble training, and has participated in tourneys.

In the books. See my reservations about the Hound.

Either GRRM was being imprecise in including the Hound (who is in GRRM's universe a knight in everything but name) on his list or he is being deliberate in referring only to those ("active"?) warriors fitting the knightly mold, which, formal training or no, Oberyn does not. Either way, Oberyn is exempt.

focus4chumps Restricted

Originally posted by quanchi112
Toyed with him, mocked him, and pulled his weapon out of him. Did you miss the show ?

did you? let me refresh your memory.

NemeBro Senior Member

Originally posted by Eminence
After hamstringing and impaling Gregor and intentionally neglecting to kill him for about a full minute. Again, maybe I'm not clear on how CIS/PIS function in this context.
In the books. See my reservations about the Hound.
Either GRRM was being imprecise in including the Hound (who is in GRRM's universe a knight in everything but name) on his list or he is being deliberate in referring only to those ("active"?) warriors fitting the knightly mold, which, formal training or no, Oberyn does not. Either way, Oberyn is exempt.

And after only surviving the duel (In both show and book) due to PIS. A spare spear in the former, Gregor rampaging and murdering civilians in the latter.

Calm down.

Eminence Boss

NemeBro
A spare spear in the former,

Them's the rules in both show and thread.

NemeBro
Gregor rampaging and murdering civilians in the latter.

His rampage is on one guy after he whiffs on Oberyn. What would have happened had the kid not stopped Oberyn's retreat could go either way.

NemeBro Senior Member

Well no, I'm going to go out on a limb here, take a stand, perhaps be a bit outrageous, and say that Oberyn armed with no weapon at all wouldn't beat Gregor Clegane.

Eminence Boss

NemeBro
Well no, I'm going to go out on a limb here, take a stand, perhaps be a bit outrageous, and say that Oberyn armed with no weapon at all wouldn't beat Gregor Clegane.

After unexpectedly having his retreat halted by some scrub, Oberyn just rolled out of the way when Gregor (for whom this may have been less unexpected, "may" because he was enraged and other "may" because line of sight!) tried to cut him down. In the time it took Gregor to yell and swing his sword one more time Oberyn was already armed and ready to fight again. If he'd backed into, I dunno, a wall, I don't see why it would have been any different. Gregor smacks his sword into a wall, Oberyn rolls aside, Gregor turns, Oberyn rushes away and has his spear before Gregor can close the gap again.

NemeBro Senior Member

You don't see how stopping fighting your opponent so you can cut someone's arm off and then cut another guy's head in two might be a bit different than focusing on him completely?

Eminence Boss

DYER bruh? Gregor takes the stableboy's arm while trying to hit Oberyn (hence "whiffed"😉 and then almost immediately kills the same kid because he's screaming.

A Storm of Swords
The stable was behind him. Spectators screamed and shoved at each other to get out of the way. One stumbled into Oberyn’s back. Ser Gregor hacked down with all his savage strength. The Red Viper threw himself sideways, rolling. The luckless stableboy behind him was not so quick. As his arm rose to protect his face, Gregor’s sword took it off between elbow and shoulder. “Shut UP!” the Mountain howled at the stableboy’s scream, and this time he swung the blade sideways, sending the top half of the lad’s head across the yard in a spray of blood and brains. Hundreds of spectators suddenly seemed to lose all interest in the guilt or innocence of Tyrion Lannister, judging by the way they pushed and shoved at each other to escape the yard.
But the Red Viper of Dorne was back on his feet, his long spear in hand.

/tangent

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Robtard
YouTube video

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h6aOZsJij2o

Cowardice thy name is the Hound. Fire makes him wet his pants. Great fave, Robbie.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by focus4chumps
did you? let me refresh your memory.

Ignoring the context of how that happened. You fanboys tend to ignore the context. Viper stomps. Too quick for the sissy known as the Hound.

Robtard Senor Member

Originally posted by quanchi112
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h6aOZsJij2o
Cowardice thy name is the Hound. Fire makes him wet his pants. Great fave, Robbie.

A good scene; the scene where Sandor openly defies the King, something you claimed he didn't do. 😂

I'm glad you're not copying me this time and that you hate The Hound. He's such a great character, a warrior poet some might say.

"Poison is a woman's weapon." - Sandor

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Robtard
A good scene; the scene where Sandor openly defies the King, something you claimed he didn't do. 😂
I'm glad you're not copying me this time and that you hate The Hound. He's such a great character, a warrior poet some might say.
"Poison is a woman's weapon." - Sandor

He didn't in the one scene because he knew he'd die but did so when fear got the better of him. He knew they couldn't waste men while being attacked on subduing the rogue hound.

I don't hate the character I just don't relate to cowards like you. I am brave whereas you are a cowardly man.

Combat in an arena isn't womanly it is manly. Deserting your post in combat is womanly as well as cowardly.

focus4chumps Restricted

Originally posted by quanchi112
He didn't in the one scene because he knew he'd die but did so when fear got the better of him. He knew they couldn't waste men while being attacked on subduing the rogue hound.

you obviously didnt even see the blackwater episode, yet you're attempting to re-script it. what utter f@ggotry

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by focus4chumps
you obviously didnt even see the blackwater episode, yet you're attempting to re-script it. what utter f@ggotry

I obviously saw it and referenced it correctly. The guy is scared and deserted his post in the midst of battle. Tyrion showed he had more balls during that battle than the trained Hound.

focus4chumps Restricted

you saw a youtube clip and applied your own made-up context, you obvious wiki-tourist cock-jockey.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by focus4chumps
you saw a youtube clip and applied your own made-up context, you obvious wiki-tourist cock-jockey.

No, I didn't. He deserted his own post. I posted the clip to show you fanboys up. Maybe you will meet someone someday so you can experience happiness again.