Um, so how powerful is the Hero of Typhon?

Originally posted by Sinious
@ Nephthys

How is that even the same thing? Palpatine was extremely fast with the saber and he killed them fast. They couldn't keep up with him. Vitiate's failure is a complete different thing.

Vitiate simply couldn't overpower the Hero. It was hardly a bad fight, being described as 'an apocalyptic duel.' It's unfair to call Vitiates performance terrible since we only saw him fighting while near depleted.

I suppose a better example though would be that Sidious performed terribly against Windu. He was disarmed, put on his ass and scurrying backwards like a b*tch in the prison shower and melted his own face.

Told ya he was mad.

I'm mad because in my rage I crushed a glass and now I have pineapple juice all over my hand. And also blood. It's so sticky!

I think you're mad because

Spoiler:
no one cares about Vitiate whereas Palpatine is a cultural icon and will always be more important, popular, powerful, intelligent, accomplished, and endowed than any of your favorite Star Wars characters.

Originally posted by Nephthys
It was hardly a bad fight, being described as 'an apocalyptic duel.' It's unfair to call Vitiates performance terrible since we only saw him fighting while near depleted.

How does that even make sense? First you say it is an apocalyptic duel than you claim that HoT faced a near depleted Vitiate.

Are you suggesting that an immensely weakened Vitiate is >>> ROTS Sidious?

Vitiate simply couldn't overpower the Hero.

Like I said, if this happened because Vitiate was much weaker than his normal strength, than her victory is not impressive at all. However though, if you are suggesting that HoT is actually more powerful in a combat compared to a decent Vitiate, than I will respectfully disagree with you.

It doesn't make sense for me to believe that a young inexperienced jedi was able to fight her way into the Empire's leaders' chambers and face him in his own temple and defeat the Emperor who has lived for 1400 years and continuously grew in power with rituals and sorcery, who has suppressed dozens of thousands of extremely powerful sith lords without even attempting to remain as a political figure but as a godlike sith avatar of the dark side and he did this for centuries.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
I think you're mad because

Spoiler:
no one cares about Vitiate whereas Palpatine is a cultural icon and will always be more important, popular, powerful, intelligent, accomplished, and endowed than any of your favorite Star Wars characters.

Actually Vitiate is my favorite character in SW mythos. 🙂

And still I don't find HoT as impressive as most people do.

Originally posted by Sinious
Actually Vitiate is my favorite character in SW mythos. 🙂

And still I don't find HoT as impressive as most people do.

I was talking to Neph. You're clearly not angry.

But... Vitiate is your favorite character? lol

Originally posted by Sinious
How does that even make sense? First you say it is an apocalyptic duel than you claim that HoT faced a near depleted Vitiate.

Are you suggesting that an immensely weakened Vitiate is >>> ROTS Sidious?

I meant that the only part of the duel that we see is the very end, when Vitiate is clearly nearly depleted of energy. He's panting, on his knees and clutching his side. Every other part of the duel occurs during gameplay.

Originally posted by Sinious
Like I said, if this happened because Vitiate was much weaker than his normal strength, than her victory is not impressive at all. However though, if you are suggesting that HoT is actually more powerful in a combat compared to a decent Vitiate, than I will respectfully disagree with you.

It doesn't make sense for me to believe that a young inexperienced jedi was able to fight her way into the Empire's leaders' chambers and face him in his own temple and defeat the Emperor who has lived for 1400 years and continuously grew in power with rituals and sorcery, who has suppressed dozens of thousands of extremely powerful sith lords without even attempting to remain as a political figure but as a godlike sith avatar of the dark side and he did this for centuries.

You should just read my summery of the duel in my HoT respect thread. I'll summarize:

Vitiate was highly weakened, but he was recovering.

The Hero had to fight through Kaas City and the Dark Temple to get to Vitiate, which would wear her out.

The Hero additionally can waste time and energy saving their love interest, giving Vitiate more time to recover.

The Dark Temple is a hugely powerful darkside nexus that Vitiate could draw upon in the fight.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
I was talking to Neph. You're clearly not angry.

But... Vitiate is your favorite character? lol

I know. I meant that I don't argue with Neph cause I think Vitiate or TOR era sucks. I just think HoT sucks. 😄

And yes. Sith are much interesting than the jedi for me and Vitiate is the most inhuman sith ever. He is like the combination of Sidious and Nihilus.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I meant that the only part of the duel that we see is the very end, when Vitiate is clearly nearly depleted of energy. He's panting, on his knees and clutching his side. Every other part of the duel occurs during gameplay.

Oh okay then.

You should just read my summery of the duel in my HoT respect thread. I'll summarize:

Vitiate was highly weakened, but he was recovering.

The Hero had to fight through Kaas City and the Dark Temple to get to Vitiate, which would wear her out.

The Hero additionally can waste time and energy saving their love interest, giving Vitiate more time to recover.

The Dark Temple is a hugely powerful darkside nexus that Vitiate could draw upon in the fight.

And despite all these facts, she still succeeded which doesn't make sense at all. So I will assume that Vitiate was much weaker than he was when he defeated Revan or destroyed Dark Councils.

It is an assumption yes. But nothing suggests otherwise. Those details you give(that I already know) are open to interpretation.

Originally posted by Sinious
And yes. Sith are much interesting than the jedi for me and Vitiate is the most inhuman sith ever. He is like the combination of Sidious and Nihilus.

Interesting. It's all subjective, really. But imho Vitiate is about as weak a character as it gets. The eldritch aspect was covered better with Nihilus and everything else is a pale imitation of Palpatine.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Interesting. It's all subjective, really. But imho Vitiate is about as weak a character as it gets. The eldritch aspect was covered better with Nihilus and everything else is a pale imitation of Palpatine.

I agree in that regard. I just like how above his story is than the rest. Even Palpatine shows interest in things like politics or feeling a part of Bane's order and desperately trying to find a decent apprentice.

Vitiate doesn't care about sith, the jedi, having apprentices or ruling the galaxy. He is trying to become one with the force but not the jedi way. It is as if he is trying to achieve a revolution in the galaxy where he will overthrow the force and replace it with himself. Its the most ambitious thing I've seen in SW tbh.

Originally posted by Sinious
I agree in that regard. I just like how above his story is than the rest. Even Palpatine shows interest in things like politics or feeling a part of Bane's order and desperately trying to find a decent apprentice.

Vitiate doesn't care about sith, the jedi, having apprentices or ruling the galaxy. He is trying to become one with the force but not the jedi way. It is as if he is trying to achieve a revolution in the galaxy where he will overthrow the force and replace it with himself. Its the most ambitious thing I've seen in SW tbh.

Even this, too, is a pale imitation of Sidious. Section 1.3, "The Apotheosis of Palpatine."

It's a shame. These folks had the opportunity to do something really unique. By ripping him off, all the SWTOR writers accomplished that they accomplished was to cement Palpatine's status as the most important Star Wars villain and that their emperor will simply fade into obscurity as Star Wars moves forward.

Wow I always wondered and was trying to find out if Palpatine had similar intentions or would he be satisfied with full political domination of the galaxy.

This is amazing:

"Here one sees the final form of the Galactic Empire: The Galactic Emperor would ultimately consume his own hierarchs into his own ego. In turn, each of these adepts would consume others beneath them, until at last every last sentient being were assimilated into the Galactic Emperor. The Galactic Emperor was already quasi-immortal, having overcome death by means of possessing clone bodies; by then, he would have transcended humanity itself, becoming more a force of nature than an individual being. Indeed, one questions whether he would have need of his original body at all, having every single body in the galaxy as his own."

Well Palpatine was my first fave character before Vitiate. I always knew he had it in him. Im so proud of him right now.

👆

I like you.

Let's all laugh about how no one cares about Vitiate and Palpatine is just so much betterer in every way.

#tormentingnephisfun

I don't really like Vitiate that much.

#apathy

Originally posted by The_Tempest
👆

I like you.

lol thanks man

Let's all laugh about how no one cares about Vitiate and Palpatine is just so much betterer in every way.

#tormentingnephisfun

"You're breaking my heart, you're going down a path I can't follow." 🙁

Originally posted by Sinious
lol thanks man

"You're breaking my heart, you're going down a path I can't follow." 🙁

Originally posted by PTforthewin
YOU DARE SAY A LINE FROM THE PREQUALS!

Whats wrong? I thought you loved the PT?

Originally posted by Sinious
Whats wrong? I thought you loved the PT?