Um, so how powerful is the Hero of Typhon?

Started by red85 pages

Um, so how powerful is the Hero of Typhon?

In one thread, we have people saying that HoT can beat Yoda:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=587847&pagenumber=1

In another thread, we have people saying that HoT is weaker than Malgus:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f86/t596824.html

I think Yoda is about on the same level as Sidious, if not a bit higher (only the RotS novel describes Yoda as inferior).

Surely Malgus is not > Sidious, right?

So, can someone clear up this inconsistency?

Decide for yourself:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f6/t586426.html

That didn't help. 🙁

A tier below Windu and Yoda

Originally posted by PTforthewin
A tier below Windu and Yoda

Yoda yes, Windu no.

The HoT is supposedly the strongest and most powerful Jedi alive in TOR, as well as the strongest Jedi born in generations, but this doesn't really help gauge them in comparison to the PT Jedi if that's what you're going for. I definitely would put them above Malgus, however behind Yoda? I don't know.

Originally posted by red8
That didn't help. 🙁

What did you expect, a status quo regarding the powerlevels of certain individuals? You look at the feats the character's performed and decide how powerful he/she is yourself 😬

honestly I think the HoT is as powerful as Mace perhaps a little bit below Mace but not by a lot.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
What did you expect, a status quo regarding the powerlevels of certain individuals? You look at the feats the character's performed and decide how powerful he/she is yourself 😬

Did you read my first post or just the topic title?
I pointed out what seems to be an odd inconsistency and asked for clarification.

I played KotOR 1 and 2, so the HoT beating the sand demon sounds pretty impressive. I've never played TOR though, so I can't really gauge how impressive beating Sith Lord X or Dark Jedi Y is compared to the feats from other eras.

Anyway, I think following are possible answers:

1) Emporer Malgus ragdolling the main characters was in fact a power inconsistency and Malgus is not above the HoT.

2) Malgus > Vitiate (highly unlikely...)

3) There is a reasonable explanation that somebody who played TOR could come up with that clarifies all of this.

HOT is above Obi wan the 3rd best jedi in the council, but he's a little less powerful then mace, and no way near yoda level.

I agree he's over Kenobi and under Yoda, but I thought he was even with Windu.

In between Yoda and Windu.

The HoT and Barsenthor are glass cannons. They are extremely powerful but they are subject to being thrown around a la Obi-Wan by Dooku.

Originally posted by Kalen Sykes
I agree he's over Kenobi and under Yoda, but I thought he was even with Windu.

S/he is even with Mace if not above him. Most people completely ignore the JK's TK and blitz feats because a lot of them are Dark Sided.

Yes, and canonically the HoT picked every lightside choice in the game, but Anakin picked every single dark side choice.

Originally posted by PTforthewin
Yes, and canonically the HoT picked every lightside choice in the game, but Anakin picked every single dark side choice.

Not true at all. There are plenty of none consequential Dark Side choices that can be picked. The idea that a Jedi fresh from apprenticeship can somehow have maturity than every master before them is crazy. Such assumptions are made in the grand scheme because established canon is made yet. A good instance is Bendak Starkiller. Canonically Revan was lightsided in KotOR, yet he still supposedly killed him, even though this was a Dark Side choice.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
S/he is even with Mace if not above him. Most people completely ignore the JK's TK and blitz feats because a lot of them are Dark Sided.
Mace has greater TK feats then HoT and I'm not talking about the exaggerated old clone wars show, in the Ryloth arc in season 1 of the new clone wars, mace force pushes and destroys a small army of battle droids and then uses the force to collapse a wall onto a Armored Assault Tank.

Originally posted by PTforthewin
Mace has greater TK feats then HoT and I'm not talking about the exaggerated old clone wars show, in the Ryloth arc in season 1 of the new clone wars, mace force pushes and destroys a small army of battle droids and then uses the force to collapse a wall onto a Armored Assault Tank.

When did this happen? The army part I mean.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
When did this happen? The army part I mean.
watch liberty on Ryloth, it's season 1 episode 21 I think.

Originally posted by PTforthewin
watch liberty on Ryloth, it's season 1 episode 21 I think.

I have and do not recall this.

Higher than Mace, just under Yoda.